(November 16, 2011 at 8:48 am)ElDinero Wrote: Don't forget, and I've made this point already in this thread and don't think it can be overstated: Our lack of belief is BEYOND OUR CONTROL. You cannot choose what you believe. So our eternal damnation is the result of something we have no control over and, if we ascribe to the viewpoint of GC and others, presumably put in place by God.
How do you respond, GC?
My view point on free will suggests that your statement is quite true. I was baptized at 5, confirmed a 7 and, even as a child, I was never able to rationalize the existence of a god.
GC reminds me of another poster from a previous forum I used to visit. Completely brainwashed with no choice any longer in their belief system due to her upbringing. We, on that site, had even suggested that her parents were guilty of 'child abuse' in this respect.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy