(November 21, 2021 at 7:56 am)Belacqua Wrote: We also have to distinguish between Angry Sky-Daddy theology and the theology of educated people, which is in every way compatible with science -- in fact science has pretty much nothing to say about it, because metaphysics covers a different field from physics. It's very hard to get this across to some people here, but the God of theology isn't a big guy hiding somewhere whom we could measure with yardsticks.
The angry sky-daddy is something that is found in the Bible yet strangely enough, modern humans still stick to judaism.
There are many lines in the Bible that suggest that the ancient jews thought that their god is in the sky.
Also, note that judaism has to be tuned to be compatible with science. The reverse never happens.
This is because science is based on reality (information that is pulled from reality) while information about the jewish god is not something that is pulled from reality.
The jewish god is just ink on paper.
Which scientist, which expert has gathered information about the jewish god by other means than reading ancient text?
(November 21, 2021 at 7:56 am)Belacqua Wrote: in fact science has pretty much nothing to say about it, because metaphysics covers a different field from physics.
Previously, I had written “science is based on reality (information that is pulled from reality)”.
Maybe I should have written instead “Humans explore their own universe”.
We haven’t explored other universes, and in fact, we haven’t explored most of our universe.
If someone wants to write fantastic stories about other universes, other lifeforms and they want to call them gods, he can.
If someone wants to write an alternate reality about Superman that came from the planet Krypton, he can.
Yes, it is normal that science is not going to discuss alternate realities, the planet Krypton, gods and their own universes.
The filters of science block such none sense.
(November 21, 2021 at 7:56 am)Belacqua Wrote: the God of theology isn't a big guy hiding somewhere whom we could measure with yardsticks.
There isn’t a singular god of theology.
Some gods are big sky daddies: the jewish god.
The jewish religion survived and it changed over time.
I don’t know. Maybe there were a few jews from 2000 y ago who believed that their god is in another universe.
There is no evidence of that in the Bible.
(November 21, 2021 at 7:56 am)Belacqua Wrote: Certainly this would make God impossible if you are defining God as having a mind like a human being -- thinking, changing, operating through time. Literalist anthropomorphism wouldn't survive.
If, however, you argue with the Platonists that God's mind is the world of Forms, or with Aristotelians for unchanging universals, or with just about every other theologian I know who says that God is ideal, unchanging, immaterial, transcendental, then the type of mind you're talking about wouldn't be relevant to God's mind.
Why would that make a god impossible?
If god is unchanging, then how can he do anything?
Yes, I see people throw around the word immaterial but can you explain how this immaterial brain works?
