(November 24, 2021 at 1:07 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(November 24, 2021 at 11:48 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But we’re all in the same frame of reference regarding the Does-free-will-exist question. Expecting that to determine the answers is like expecting the rats in a maze to have a confab as to the meaning of the experiment. It’s not possible for us to determine if we’re even in the maze at all. It would take a rat standing outside the maze to make that realization.
Boru
They are actually aware of what is going on:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_C._Tolman
‘Aware of what is going on’ isn’t remotely the same as understanding the meaning of the experiment, and learning to run a maze isn’t the same as free will.
Boru
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