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Judaism - What is judaism - When did it start?
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RE: Judaism - What is judaism - When did it start?
(November 26, 2021 at 8:13 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Irony being that the people who then returned were a distinct ethnicity and religion to both those groups which preceded them culturally and historically.

They went from Babylon back to Israel (or whatever the name was back then). Why would they be distinct ethnically and religiously?
Did they intermarry with the babylonians and to what extent?
Did they modify judaism?

(November 26, 2021 at 8:13 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Muslims are no more Christian than Christian’s are Jewish

When I tell a christian, muslim, mormon that they are a jew, I don’t literally mean that they are EXACTLY a jew.
The idea is to make sure that they understand that someone took the original religion (one of the originals) which is judaism, they modified it to some extent and labeled it as “THE NEW RELIGION, the latest and greatest, the most correct, forget the previous one.”

The other thing that sometimes I mention is that most of these christians are of english, german, french background. Some call themselves american, some call themselves canadian.
I have spoken to 1 or 2 people from Sweden, different parts of Africa, etc.
All these people have dumped their own religion, the religion of their ancestors, and decided that a religion derived from judaism is the one true faith.


Quote:There are five distinct gods with a relationship to a borrowed ladder.


Yes, they are borrowing the ladder. In other words, they all have the same foundation, same Genesis, Exodus, etc. They all agree that god is real and he did interact with people such as Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham and all the way to Jesus.

There is disagreement as to who Jesus was between christian sects and also between christian and muslim.

Quote:The only reason that there is ever any notion that they’re the same is when it serves the interests of god botherers to consolidate their social authority. Otherwise they’d just as soon and always have killed each other over it.



If they tell me that they are worshiping the same god, it is good enough for me. Also, it is clear that they (judaism, christianity, islam, mormonism) have the same foundation.
Whenever a new master leader comes, the new master leader doesn’t claim “Forget that god. I have a new god for you.”
That’s the way it was with Jesus.
That’s the way it was with Mohammed.
That’s the way it was with Joseph Smith.
Each one is just trying to tune up the religion, they are trying to deliver the corrected version.

So, I see a parallel between software and religion and also biological evolution.

(November 26, 2021 at 12:25 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(November 26, 2021 at 12:00 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: If I had to name them whales

You don't have to name them whales.

No one calls them whales. 

They aren't whales. 

Version numbers are irrelevant.

Everything you wrote there is true.

I would also add
Source:
https://animals.fandom.com/wiki/Pakicetidae
“Pakicetidae ("Pakistani whales") is an extinct mammalian family of carnivorous cetaceans that lived during the Early Eocene to Middle Eocene (55.8 mya—40.4 mya) Indo-Pakistan and existed for approximately 15.4 million years. Modern whales evolved from archaic whales such as basilosaurids, which in turn evolved from something like the amphibious ambulocetids, which themselves evolved from something like the land-dwelling pakicetids. All species are known only from a few sites in northern Pakistan, hence the name of the family, in a region which was coastal to the Tethys Sea when the pakicetids lived.“



There is a company called Apple.
They have a product called iPhone 10, iPhone 11, iPhone 12, etc.

They don’t have to call it iPhone 12.
The 12 is a version number.
Instead of calling it iPhone 12, they could call it Meztoriopazti

The OS running on it, they don’t have to call it iOS v 14.0. They could call it Mac Vizgo.
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RE: Judaism - What is judaism - When did it start? - by Silver - November 25, 2021 at 10:57 pm
RE: Judaism - What is judaism - When did it start? - by Ferrocyanide - November 26, 2021 at 12:51 pm
RE: Judaism - What is judaism - When did it start? - by Ranjr - November 15, 2022 at 5:50 pm

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