Proof and evidence will always equal Science

[polymath257]

I skimmed that thread, but don't see your argument there.

You're right. This was the post of which I was thinking...

https://atheistforums.org/thread-47154-p...pid1486079

Some theists do see God in the way you describe. My grandmother certainly did...I think most theists don't think too deeply about the matter at all.

How, may I ask, do you feel about your grandmother and the place of faith in her life??

She used it as a bludgeon to keep her children under control.

But no, I don't think that intelligent theists usually say that God is an object in the universe. But I have yet to see what they think the word *does* signify.

So concepts such as Ground-of-Being or Being-Itself or The Totality have no interest for you? I can respect that. Is it necessary to disrespect those do find them interesting? Is there more that one way to experience being human?

It's more that I don't see those phrases as being meaningful at all.

What does 'Ground of Being' even mean? What *could* it even mean?

How is 'Being Itself' different than 'Being'? I see 'existence' as an adjective, not a noun.

So those two just seem to be meaningless phrases to me. Maybe, if someone could define what they mean and show they exist, then they *might* be interesting.

As for 'The Totality', that just seems like an overblown way of saying 'the Universe'.

So, yes, I am one of those 'douchbag' atheists that see God as equivalent to the tooth fairy.

Indeed. I Apologize for my "pre-Exodus" behavior. I do still harbor many of the same feelings but am making every effort to interact with other people online with both genuine curiousity and good intentions, if that means anything to you.

Yes, it does. It means we might be able to have a conversation, if we can find some common definitions to use.