(December 1, 2021 at 11:59 am)Klorophyll Wrote:(December 1, 2021 at 8:57 am)Ten Wrote: I've hit a bit of a conundrum regarding the "proof of the existence of God" question.
You can't do it.
Ask a theist to define:
Supernatural
Divine
Faith
Spirit
Soul
God
And you get vague wishy-washy crap that either doesn't mean anything,
I don't know much about other religions, but Islam acknowledges that the soul is undefinable, unknowable:
"And they ask you about the soul. Say: The soul is one of the commands of my Lord, and you are not given aught of knowledge but a little." (Qur'an 17:85)
This line of revelation purportedly came to the Islamic Prophet when a group of Jews challenged him to reveal the reality of the soul.
https://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/11962...ammad-saw/
A false prophet would have cobbled something together as the reality of the soul to maintain the facade of prophethood.
It doesn’t exactly take a genius to say that the soul is undefinable, unknowable.
If you think that ONLY a false prophet would make up some horse shit and ONLY a true prophet could say undefinable, unknowable, then your ability to cut through none sense is weak.
I suggest that you sharpen your logical knife.
A soul is just a machine that some author(s) have inserted into their stories.
Stories are just ink on paper. Anyone can buy some ink and paper and write whatever they want.
Some people have the talent to write long and interesting stories, some people have the talent to write the notes that an orchestra should play.
Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale had the talent to write Back to the Future and they decided to insert the Delorian into their story.
However, if you ask them how the time circuits worked, they would not be able to explain it to you.
The soul is to Mohammed, just like the Delorian+time circuits are to Robert and Bob.
^^^^^I’m talking in terms of having to explain how a machine works.
Also,
Mohammed didn’t invent the soul. He just inserted it into his novel.
The idea of having a time machine probably has its roots in the 19 th century.
The idea of using a car and needing to go at high speed and using a nuclear reactor to power it is a novel 20 th century idea.