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Proof and evidence will always equal Science
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RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science
(December 14, 2021 at 1:37 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(December 14, 2021 at 12:54 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: In fact, all humans can observe the same chair.

If Vulcan's thread is any indication, this is not the case.  I think this is something you believe, but it's not factual.  It fares particularly poorly once you get outside paradigmatic cases.

It is true. We can’t be absolutely certain that we are all observing the same chair, even when we observe the chair and document it and the properties all match up.
A case such as if we were in the Matrix would be such a situation.
Humans simply live their lives as thought we weren’t in a Matrix, that there are no aliens playing tricks on our senses.

It is even possible that 2 people observe a chair and one person sees a rabbit and another person sees an XBox.
Person 1 documents the properties of the “chair” in a book where he describes the rabbit. Person 2 reads what person 1 wrote and he sees a description of an XBox and it matches Person 2’s observation.

This kind of thing happens in Star Trek.
For example, a human speaks english. The klingon hears the human but it looks like the human is speaking klingon. The vulcan hears it in the vulcan language.
It is done through technology: the universal translator.

A similar thing happens in the episodes with Q. Q takes Janeway and the others to his own real. The humans see 19 th century USA and Q informs them that it is a representation of what is happening. He is injecting into their brain a representation since the real version would look bizarre and incomprehensible to the humans.
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Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by zwanzig - December 1, 2021 at 8:57 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Jehanne - December 14, 2021 at 10:14 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Jehanne - December 15, 2021 at 3:06 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Ferrocyanide - December 14, 2021 at 7:01 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 1, 2021 at 9:46 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 1, 2021 at 11:41 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 1, 2021 at 1:08 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 1, 2021 at 4:10 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by R00tKiT - December 1, 2021 at 11:59 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 1, 2021 at 12:01 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Ranjr - December 1, 2021 at 4:00 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Ranjr - December 1, 2021 at 4:38 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Ahriman - December 4, 2021 at 10:40 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 4, 2021 at 10:48 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 4, 2021 at 4:08 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 1, 2021 at 8:18 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 2, 2021 at 10:29 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Silver - December 1, 2021 at 10:16 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Ranjr - December 3, 2021 at 7:05 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Ranjr - December 3, 2021 at 7:30 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Jehanne - December 4, 2021 at 12:24 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Ranjr - December 4, 2021 at 1:25 pm
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by brewer - December 5, 2021 at 10:10 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Jehanne - December 6, 2021 at 11:21 am
RE: Proof and evidence will always equal Science - by Jehanne - December 6, 2021 at 11:37 am

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