RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 25, 2022 at 10:47 am
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2022 at 11:01 am by Anomalocaris.)
(February 25, 2022 at 3:16 am)Deesse23 Wrote:(February 24, 2022 at 6:19 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Pro-western Ukrainian governments since 2005 has been clammering for NATO member ship as a way to burn the bridge with russia and preventing Ukraine from backsliding towards russian influence.Maybe, just maybe that has to do something with how well the Ukrainian SSR did under the USSR? Do you have a problem with sovereign and independent states, electing leaders who act in their countries own interest and not Russias?
I dont give a fuck about Russia as much as Putin gives a fuck about me. Lately he was asked if he intends to give back Ospreussen to Germany. Guess his answer: Germany lost WWII
Too bad, (soviet)Russia lost the following cold one. History sucks. Get.used.to.this.Vlad.
I am fed up with this russo apologetic BS.
If you want to give Putin Ukriane, then i want to have: Pommern, Schlesien, Ostpreussen and Memelland. Austria too if you may. The country that curerntly makes Poland is also artificial, more so than Ukraine ever was, to a large extend former gemran territory. Poland was entired shifted westwards, because Stalin wanted some parts of then Poland. Why not adress that?
What? You have different standards for Putin , Poland and me?
Too bad.
(February 24, 2022 at 11:25 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: His being demonized in the west
He is imprisoning and sentencing political opponents at will, looking away (if not involved in) killing of inconvenient journalists (or former FSB whistleblowers), has destroyed free press and ceased to hold free elections (even then he needed to resort to prohibit an opponent from being able to run for election, thats how shit scared of the last bit of freedom in Russia he is). He made being gay illegal. He also, just lately, invaded an independent country.
Yes, he is a pretty bad hombre. Ymmv o.c..
standard ultimately is a conceit. what is right or wrong is ultimately just a conceit. what you personally care about or is fed up with is an even more pathetic conceit. capability and interest will overwhelm either, as they are doing now, by russia to ukraine.
thinking self serving standards will allow us to run roughshod over russia’s interests and capabilities is what got us here. it will not get us out of here, whatever much you wish it would.
