The great thing about this, GC, is you've been forced to admit that you don't care about evidence. You say there is no evidence to expose me to, and that new information would not affect your position. You have just eliminated yourself from any discussions about God's existence, because there's nothing that could make you lose your faith. Unfalsifiable position, what's the point in debating with you? You've actually told us flat out that it will never happen, making it pointless to discuss anything with you.
To add to this, you're still dodging my challenge any way you can (It would be betraying God/I don't have a favourite colour). Choose to have a favourite colour, this is exactly my point. You say you don't have one, so use the control over your beliefs that you have to give yourself a favourite colour, just to prove your point. Can't see why you wouldn't take that opportunity.
Finally, you don't understand my point at all. Or are deliberately avoiding it (my suspicion). Look at what you said above: You say I might be a believer if I saw God at work. Yes, you're right, that's possible! And if I saw that, it would be....NEW INFORMATION INFORMING MY BELIEF. If I followed you for a couple of years, I might see things you do, and that would be NEW INFORMATION INFORMING MY BELIEF. How can you not understand this?
I have been exposed to plenty of arguments, anecdotal evidence, personal experience stories, and on and on and on ad infinitum, and they are unconvincing. On the basis of the evidence I have been exposed to, I do not believe. So, one more time, you stupid prick: HOW CAN I CHOOSE TO CHANGE MY BELIEF AT THIS POINT? HOW COULD I CHOOSE TO CHANGE MY BELIEF WITHOUT FURTHER INFORMATION BECOMING AVAILABLE TO ME?
I realise you're going to come back with some new acrobatics to get out of accepting that you're wrong, because you are a delusional idiot, but I'm happy to expose you fully here. You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
To add to this, you're still dodging my challenge any way you can (It would be betraying God/I don't have a favourite colour). Choose to have a favourite colour, this is exactly my point. You say you don't have one, so use the control over your beliefs that you have to give yourself a favourite colour, just to prove your point. Can't see why you wouldn't take that opportunity.
(November 22, 2011 at 10:01 pm)Godschild Wrote: There is no evidence to expose you to, unless you would like to run around with me for a couple of years and see the things I do, even then you would not have any hard scientific evidence you seem to require. You would see God at work and you would not be able to use science to disprove it, I know I've been walking this path for a long time and seen God at work far more than you would believe, as a matter of fact if you had you might be a believer now. I say might because you want absolute facts, that's a choice you make without any new evidence.
Finally, you don't understand my point at all. Or are deliberately avoiding it (my suspicion). Look at what you said above: You say I might be a believer if I saw God at work. Yes, you're right, that's possible! And if I saw that, it would be....NEW INFORMATION INFORMING MY BELIEF. If I followed you for a couple of years, I might see things you do, and that would be NEW INFORMATION INFORMING MY BELIEF. How can you not understand this?
I have been exposed to plenty of arguments, anecdotal evidence, personal experience stories, and on and on and on ad infinitum, and they are unconvincing. On the basis of the evidence I have been exposed to, I do not believe. So, one more time, you stupid prick: HOW CAN I CHOOSE TO CHANGE MY BELIEF AT THIS POINT? HOW COULD I CHOOSE TO CHANGE MY BELIEF WITHOUT FURTHER INFORMATION BECOMING AVAILABLE TO ME?
I realise you're going to come back with some new acrobatics to get out of accepting that you're wrong, because you are a delusional idiot, but I'm happy to expose you fully here. You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.