Russia and Ukraine

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yeah, really.  Its one of those things where the need engenders its abuse.  When we hit pavement, we have two options..... synthetic fertilizer, and livestock.  The shit from livestock is already marketable, but it's the cheapest part.  No one will (economically) keep cattle for bullshit alone when no one is eating steak.

So where then, do we get the outsized nitrogen requirement of contemporary ag?  The baseline of conventianal agriculture assumes that hundreds and hundreds of pounds per acre of nitrogen are available in the form of cheap maure.  We've only ever met that condition when we've turned oil to N.

If we’d stop using so much oil to run six blocks to the dairy for a candy bar and a Coke, we might be able to save enough to grow more food.

That stuff is far too valuable to be used in cars.

Boru