RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
April 19, 2022 at 12:45 am
(April 18, 2022 at 11:03 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(April 18, 2022 at 10:28 pm)paulpablo Wrote: No, only if they declare they believe in punishing people for not believing. Put another way I don't believe I should die, so if someone says they believe I should die then I would be morally fine with them being killed.
There's no specific religion (there might be some exceptions) in which every follower believes disbelievers should die. So it's not about me judging entire religions, But if someone of any religion believes that I or other non believers should die for not believing then I'm morally fine with them being killed.
The same goes for atheists who believe in killing religious people just for being religious, I think it would be morally fine for them to be killed.
That seems clearer.
You're in favor of killing people whose beliefs are in favor of killing people whom you judge not to be deserving of death.
So let's say, for example, that you believe gay marriage is a good thing. (I believe this too.)
And let's say that there is a group of fanatics who believe that you should be killed for believing that.
You believe that these fanatics should be killed.
So you and the fanatics agree that some people should be killed for their beliefs, you just disagree over which people should die.
There probably are some exceptions but in general you're probably about right. I think some of this would depend on how much of a legitimate violent threat the person is to the people they believe deserve harm. And how much evidence there is that they really believe what they say they believe. If a guy with no arms and legs and no friends backing him up wanted to kill all people with arms and legs, I'd have no urgency to kill him.
If I was Jewish, surrounded by Nazis in a death camp and their beliefs were backed up by potential violence I'm sure my urgency to kill these people for their beliefs would increase.
These are two extreme sides of the spectrum.
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