RE: Is there free will in heaven?
November 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2011 at 7:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No, you attempted to circumvent a terrible, terrible problem with the idea of a christian heaven filled to the brim with free will by stating that we just wouldn't want to do a or b anymore ( a claim that's already been handled in this thread). Well I call bullshit (again). There will never be a moment that I won't enjoy two women going down on each other. That's just the amusing one, I could be a real dick and mention all of the other things that my mind will not and cannot change about that have to do directly with the curator of this little celestial museum you've imagined. Free will is not compatible with the christian god in the first place, let alone whatever hellhole he's built for all the helpful little werewolves that fancy themselves morally superior, or headed for some great "personal growth" in the afterlife. What afterlife, what "person" is growing?
As has been mentioned, if we accept their fairy tale as truth, there is already a certain group of somebodies who opted out for whatever reason (their side of the narrative isn't very well represented, surprise surprise). Invoking some "higher plane of existence" has exactly what to do with personal growth? While I'm at it, why should their particular view of morality represent personal growth in the first place? I think its degenerate behaviour unbefitting a human being to even insinuate that this narrative may give us some metric or means for personal growth. If I can change later, why then can't I change my mind back, in this higher plane of existence, to liking lesbian sex again? Think of that? Or did you we our hands because we thought this platitude would fly?
All of this, on top of the fact that there is no such place as heaven, no such thing as a soul, and no such god as christ.
(the amount of bullshit any god in any heaven would have to cut through for me to give him the okay to fucking mind meld me is almost impossible to comprehend, I don't want to be in your heaven, I don't want to be surrounded by the kind of people who presumably gain admittance, and I certainly don't want anything to do with the god who runs the shitty little theme park they're looking forward to. So, again, sanctimonious bullshit.)
edited to give the benefit of the doubt.
As has been mentioned, if we accept their fairy tale as truth, there is already a certain group of somebodies who opted out for whatever reason (their side of the narrative isn't very well represented, surprise surprise). Invoking some "higher plane of existence" has exactly what to do with personal growth? While I'm at it, why should their particular view of morality represent personal growth in the first place? I think its degenerate behaviour unbefitting a human being to even insinuate that this narrative may give us some metric or means for personal growth. If I can change later, why then can't I change my mind back, in this higher plane of existence, to liking lesbian sex again? Think of that? Or did you we our hands because we thought this platitude would fly?
All of this, on top of the fact that there is no such place as heaven, no such thing as a soul, and no such god as christ.
(the amount of bullshit any god in any heaven would have to cut through for me to give him the okay to fucking mind meld me is almost impossible to comprehend, I don't want to be in your heaven, I don't want to be surrounded by the kind of people who presumably gain admittance, and I certainly don't want anything to do with the god who runs the shitty little theme park they're looking forward to. So, again, sanctimonious bullshit.)
edited to give the benefit of the doubt.
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