RE: Why did god create evil?
November 26, 2011 at 10:33 pm
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2011 at 10:59 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Free will either is or isn't. It doesn't have to do with someones perspective. Whether or not you know the magicians trick you aren't actually being offered a choice when he says "pick a card, any card". But hey, we've gone from free will to choice, and then back to free will. Even "choice" is a meaningless concept when dealing with precognitive entities. Choice, again, implies that you could have gone with a or b, but if it is already seen, it is already set, and you could have only gone with a, or the precog is not a precog.
"In the broadest perspective there is no free will because one being has a perspective of viewing all. This does not negate Eve's choice because God knew what would happen because Eve doesn't share God's perspective. God has free will, Eve has free will; it's a matter of perspective whether a human has an effective free will."
Did you really just try to "if by whiskey" me? I thought we were buddies..I rep'd you you bastard, lol. The precog/free will bit applies to god too btw. He is either a prisoner of his own precognitive ability, or he has no precognitive ability.
More precisely: "This does not negate Eves illusion of choice".
Punished for doing exactly what he knew she would, cursed for it into eternity(and all of her children) as though she could have picked any other card when he had stacked the deck to begin with. Disgusting. Even if he weren't precognitive he still should have known exactly how all of this would end, if only as the creator of a complex machine. This narrative makes god sound like a bumbling idiot, as though he were an emotional cripple who flies off the handle when people don't conform to his wishes(after creating them specifically to have wishes of their own). It's utter garbage Tack. Were I a christian, I'd insist that this was just a fanciful story, and in no way indicative of god, his mind or will, or our origins. I'd want my god to be a little bit bigger than this. Anyone who tries to sell the fruit narrative as factually accurate is doing the concept of god a great disservice, in my opinion.
"In the broadest perspective there is no free will because one being has a perspective of viewing all. This does not negate Eve's choice because God knew what would happen because Eve doesn't share God's perspective. God has free will, Eve has free will; it's a matter of perspective whether a human has an effective free will."
Did you really just try to "if by whiskey" me? I thought we were buddies..I rep'd you you bastard, lol. The precog/free will bit applies to god too btw. He is either a prisoner of his own precognitive ability, or he has no precognitive ability.
More precisely: "This does not negate Eves illusion of choice".
Punished for doing exactly what he knew she would, cursed for it into eternity(and all of her children) as though she could have picked any other card when he had stacked the deck to begin with. Disgusting. Even if he weren't precognitive he still should have known exactly how all of this would end, if only as the creator of a complex machine. This narrative makes god sound like a bumbling idiot, as though he were an emotional cripple who flies off the handle when people don't conform to his wishes(after creating them specifically to have wishes of their own). It's utter garbage Tack. Were I a christian, I'd insist that this was just a fanciful story, and in no way indicative of god, his mind or will, or our origins. I'd want my god to be a little bit bigger than this. Anyone who tries to sell the fruit narrative as factually accurate is doing the concept of god a great disservice, in my opinion.
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