(June 22, 2009 at 3:03 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 22, 2009 at 2:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Huh? You mean you engineered a trap and I failed to spring it?
It wasn't a trap. But admission of that lets me knowwhat you think.
Not really ... I was seeking clarification because I didn't really understand what you meant?
(June 22, 2009 at 2:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(June 21, 2009 at 5:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Ah, the mythical "Q" ... in that case I believe you should be looking at the world's oldest known bible but be careful ... apparently there's no mention of the resurrection.Nothing 'mythical' about it. You deny the existence of the paper trail as well? Trouble is, if you go this far down the road of denial, it looks illogical to the most casual observer. You need to stay on the side of reason.
Though I accept that such a document may well have existed once (in all likelihood did so) it is, until found, effectively mythical and inadmissible as real evidence.
(June 22, 2009 at 2:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(June 22, 2009 at 1:27 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: And the fact remains that others (other theists) do not agree with you so your view is hardly authoritative.The fact is that EVERY Christian agrees with me. That's enough for an assertion.
No they don't ... here for example is just one such Christian IOW not ALL Christians support the NIV as the one true bible.
(June 22, 2009 at 2:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(June 22, 2009 at 1:27 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Oh trust me I'm not merely interpreting ... it says DAYS and therefore one needs a specific reason, a specific logic, a specific justification to decide it meant something other than days and yet again there are many Christians who interpret it as exactly that, DAYS. In addition there are other problems:You ARE EXACTLY interpreting though. Or repeating an interpretation. Yes you could discuss that with deluded individuals (IMHO). That doesn't make it any more than interpretation though.
Of course I am interpreting, I said I am not merely interpreting: IOW there are things about the genesis account that are undeniable ... it says DAYS, it doesn't say weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millennia or any other time periods, IT SAYS DAYS. Furthermore there are things that DO NOT reflect the scientific explanation of how life came to be ... the bible is not a science book and it is NOT an accurate representation of what is understood to have occurred on this planet.
(June 22, 2009 at 1:27 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I've heard an almost exact account as you cited there preached explaining Genisis. It has little merit in either camp when used to dismiss either science or God. The account is an explanation in human terms. The metaphor of 'days' fulfills this requirement. That is all.
THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT THE "DAYS" ARE METAPHORICAL IN GENESIS.
If you heard an almost exact account then fine but I hope you are not implying I plagiarised that piece because I did not ... I wrote it all myself.
Kyu
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