UK STRIKE DAY 30TH NOVEMBER

[Tiberius]

Says the person who has demonized Bozo...

... and I still see that you are still doing so.

"bordering on Fascist"? Might as well call him a nazi, which is typically what people think of when the word "fascist" is thrown around.

If you apologize to bozo, then I will apologize to you.

Firstly, "bordering on fascist" =/= fascist. I was commenting on the fact that over the last 3 years (which is how long I've known him here), he has become increasingly authoritarian. Instead of debating opinions, he comes right out and calls people racists if they do anything that is seen to be "un-PC", despite the fact that a racist can't be defined in those terms.

Look at the amount of times he's attacked me in this thread, just for voicing my opinion. He's claimed I live in a "bubble", that I'm "barking mad", and then when I comment on his lack of a sense of humour, he comes all out attacking me yet again. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: bozo is perfectly fine with controlling other people's minds; in fact, he's perfectly fine with the government doing it. Freedom of expression and freedom of speech are parts of the "left" that bozo ultimately rejects, favouring authoritarian control over what we can say.

#1 - my original apology was for calling you a Nazi. I now know the difference between Nazi's and right libs. Trying to equate my post to that was low and slick. you almost got me.. I had to think aboout it...yeah, you were being slick.

I didn't equate the two; I said your post reminded me of that time. Calling me a Nazi was much worse, I'll grant you that, but you still maintain that I "advocate the death and destitution of many millions of families and children". This is a lie, it is insulting, and it is sick. I've done no such thing; if anything, I've said I want people to be in control of their own futures. I'm not advocating that everyone trust savings; it's their personal choice if they do, and their personal responsibility if their plan fails.

#2 - By suggesting that pensions be placed into private institutions is defacto asking that the capitalist system be adhered to 100%. Capitalism doesnt make everyone winners. It makes a small hand full of people MAJOR winners, and makes a huge majority losers. So yes, I am correct by saying you advocate bad tidings upon other families...and I will explain why in ..

Yet I didn't say that. I commented on what I was doing. This was 100% about my own decision, and 0% about policy.

#3 - I suggest that every citizen be given an equal share of the pie. Therefore the child makes as much as the electrician. In no way can anyone suggest that I am for people losing their health and well being, in that I support an equal outcome for everyone. You, on the other hand, do NOT support an equal outcome for everyone, which means you agree that losers must inherently exist in the system.

This is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. I do support an equal outcome, but for everyone who puts something into the system. I don't support slackers "winning" for doing nothing.

So, in conclusion, never once have I called you or even suggested that you were a Nazi in this post. I merely pointed out that the system you support would ultimately lead to unhealth and death of many people, including children.

I never said you called me a Nazi, I said it "reminded me" of a time when you did. If you can't see the similarities between saying someone is "advocat[ing] the death and destitution of many millions of families and children" and calling someone a Nazi, then you really need to re-read history. Even if the Nazi's hadn't killed countless families and children, or force them into poverty, it's still a horrible thing to accuse someone of.

You, Adrian, on the other hand, had no problem suggesting that Bozo (a left wing socialist more on my side of the political spectrum) was "bordering on fascist".

Yes, because censorship or freedom of speech / expression is a step towards fascism. I actually have evidence to back up my assertion, and I will not apologise for it. I didn't call him a fascist; I think that would be a step too far (at the moment). What he is, based on the 3 years I've known him, is an authoritarian, bordering on fascist, defender of censorship and the inequality of ideas.

OK arsehole, I don't care what you call me, I'll return in kind.
You are no more an expert on Socialism than you are on anything else...you just think you know everything.

No, I don't think I know everything. I do know that socialism is a left-wing ideology, and one of the social tenets of the left-wing is freedom of speech. This is what you are against, even though most socialists I've known are 100% for it. Thus, you are turning socialism (the socialism you espouse) into an authoritarian ideology.

Boy what an ego you've got! So the strikers' lives will be ruined if you don't turn up for work for one day! What exactly is your job and why are you so important?

No, I didn't say the strikers' lives would be ruined if I didn't turn up to work for one day. I just know that a lot of people (my company, our clients, etc) depend on the work I do. If they didn't, I wouldn't have a job. Nobody in a company should be expendable; everyone is important in some way. I carry out research into things we can add to our products, and I do destructive testing on our new application, so that we can be one step ahead of hackers who seek to break into our clients' systems.

I have a sense of duty, that is simply not shared by those striking. They care more about themselves than they do about the clients they serve. In some cases, I'm sure that kind of behaviour would be ignored, but in this case, some of the "clients" are children, who need a decent education in order to go out and enjoy life properly. Why are they being ignored?