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Poll: Do you think Jesus actually existed?
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Yes
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I'm agnostic in regards to the existence of Jesus
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8 14.81%
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Did Jesus Even Really Exist?
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist?
(November 27, 2011 at 7:22 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm not sure why you mentioned Herod, if it was one who knew Jesus I believe I said higher ranking people.

DP Wrote:How high a rank do you want? Local ruler isn't enough? What do you want? Emperor Tiberius?

The point I've been trying to make is this, Jesus was not know by those who are written about in history except for Herod. So there's no real reason for Him to be written about in history.

Quote:Syria, now that's along way off, get real please.

DP Wrote:For the time, yes. It doesn't fit your narrative that Jesus was just a local yocal that nobody outside a small group of peasants paid any attention to.

Go back and read what I said, I stated that Jesus was very popular with the lesser people of His day. With Jesus feeding thousands that had gathered to see Him, one can not deny His popularity nor would I want to. He said he came for the poor, the sick, the hurting, the down trodden and ect. so yes He was popular with those He came to help. Yes it was a small area He was known in, but His popularity was great to those who needed or wanted what He had. Just like today the elite did not think they needed someone like Jesus, they believed they had it, so they were not looking for anything from Jesus.

Quote:You have completely avoided the question, why? I've asked an honest question, can't you reply likewise? I believe "any" covers everyone.

DP Wrote:OK, John the Baptist is an analogous example of one less famous who has more of a footprint in recorded history. Josephus mentioned him in a passage that wasn't a glaring forgery.

Jesus was also mentioned by Josephus, yes part of what was said was added but not all of it. Both are just mentioned you really could not call this a written history. Josephus was a puppet of Rome, He dare not write a history of Jesus like is recorded in scriptures, he would have hung on a cross as well for upstaging Caesar. Jesus was killed for upstaging the religious leaders of the day.



Thanks Rayaan I could not get all the comments to hide.
Godschild
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Erinome - November 21, 2011 at 1:02 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 1:08 am
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Skeptical_Nurse - November 21, 2011 at 2:08 am
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Norfolk And Chance - November 21, 2011 at 5:59 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by padraic - November 21, 2011 at 6:25 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Erinome - November 21, 2011 at 9:09 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by frankiej - November 21, 2011 at 9:25 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by DeistPaladin - November 21, 2011 at 10:22 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Justtristo - November 21, 2011 at 11:17 pm
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Minimalist - November 21, 2011 at 1:20 pm
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Erinome - November 21, 2011 at 1:56 pm
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Phaedra - November 21, 2011 at 11:33 pm
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Justtristo - November 22, 2011 at 12:07 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Phaedra - November 22, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Faith No More - November 22, 2011 at 2:35 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Minimalist - November 22, 2011 at 12:40 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Justtristo - November 22, 2011 at 1:17 am
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by IATIA - November 22, 2011 at 1:10 am
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by IATIA - November 24, 2011 at 7:24 pm
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by IATIA - November 25, 2011 at 6:37 pm
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Epimethean - November 24, 2011 at 1:43 pm
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by DeistPaladin - November 25, 2011 at 9:12 pm
RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Godschild - November 27, 2011 at 4:21 am
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Godschild - November 27, 2011 at 7:22 pm
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Godschild - November 28, 2011 at 12:59 am
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Godschild - November 28, 2011 at 8:58 pm
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RE: Did Jesus Even Really Exist? - by Godschild - November 29, 2011 at 1:02 am
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