Did Jesus Even Really Exist?

[Happy UnBeliever]

I'm not sure why you mentioned Herod, if it was one who knew Jesus I believe I said higher ranking people.

How high a rank do you want? Local ruler isn't enough? What do you want? Emperor Tiberius?

The point I've been trying to make is this, Jesus was not know by those who are written about in history except for Herod. So there's no real reason for Him to be written about in history.

Syria, now that's along way off, get real please.

For the time, yes. It doesn't fit your narrative that Jesus was just a local yocal that nobody outside a small group of peasants paid any attention to.

Go back and read what I said, I stated that Jesus was very popular with the lesser people of His day. With Jesus feeding thousands that had gathered to see Him, one can not deny His popularity nor would I want to. He said he came for the poor, the sick, the hurting, the down trodden and ect. so yes He was popular with those He came to help. Yes it was a small area He was known in, but His popularity was great to those who needed or wanted what He had. Just like today the elite did not think they needed someone like Jesus, they believed they had it, so they were not looking for anything from Jesus.

You have completely avoided the question, why? I've asked an honest question, can't you reply likewise? I believe "any" covers everyone.

OK, John the Baptist is an analogous example of one less famous who has more of a footprint in recorded history. Josephus mentioned him in a passage that wasn't a glaring forgery.

Jesus was also mentioned by Josephus, yes part of what was said was added but not all of it. Both are just mentioned you really could not call this a written history. Josephus was a puppet of Rome, He dare not write a history of Jesus like is recorded in scriptures, he would have hung on a cross as well for upstaging Caesar. Jesus was killed for upstaging the religious leaders of the day.

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Godschild

Jesus was also mentioned by Josephus, yes part of what was said was added but not all of it. Both are just mentioned you really could not call this a written history. Josephus was a puppet of Rome, He dare not write a history of Jesus like is recorded in scriptures, he would have hung on a cross as well for upstaging Caesar. Jesus was killed for upstaging the religious leaders of the day.

I expected the Ant 18 passage that has already been proven a forgery. Josephus was not born until 4 years after this jesus was strung up on that stick so there is no way he is even remotely a contemporary source for this mythical character.

http://www.mountainman.com.au/essenes/article_008.htm

He dare not write a history of Jesus like is recorded in scriptures

Are you for real? You call the scripture a HISTORY! The reported so call life of this jesus as recorded by the GOSPELS is a JOKE! They knew nothing of the very man they supposedly followed. Bible is not history its an anthology written by men of questionable origin and authorship.

Jesus was killed for upstaging the religious leaders of the day.

Shows what you know as well of your mythical character. jesus was strung up because of blasphemy not because he had committed any crime! Blasphemy was not a crime punishable by DEATH under Roman law! The Jews had him strung up! Pilate did not want to execute him. Pilate was more concerned with abolishing Jewish law at the time.

Pilate brought in the ARMY in order to abolish Jewish law. Josephus wrote in Antiquities 18 below:

ANTIQUITIES 18.3.1
1. BUT now Pilate, the procurator of Judea, removed the army from Cesarea to Jerusalem, to take their winter quarters there, in order to abolish the Jewish laws.

So he introduced Caesar's effigies, which were upon the ensigns, and brought them into the city; whereas our law forbids us the very making of images; on which account the former procurators were wont to make their entry into the city with such ensigns as had not those ornaments.