I've found that all debates with Christians about the "historical Jesus" usually wind up with the Christian improvising a never ending stream of ad hoc hypotheses until you wind up having to prove a negative.
Translation: "Except for the guy in charge of the province, whatayagot?"
Seriously? And all the various unnamed rich people don't count? How about Joseph of Arimathea? He was a man apparently so rich and powerful as to get a crucified criminal a proper burial. None of them count?
What would satisfy you? The emperor along with the entire Roman senate coming to Judea to speak with Jesus?
Prove it.
The apologists have admitted the passage was tampered with. The assertion that the passage is "partially authentic" has so far not been backed up with anything aside from "it uses words Josephus would have used and stuff."
Try doing like I do. Only quote the passages you are replying to. It makes for a more readable reply.
Quote:The point I've been trying to make is this, Jesus was not know by those who are written about in history except for Herod. So there's no real reason for Him to be written about in history.
Translation: "Except for the guy in charge of the province, whatayagot?"
Seriously? And all the various unnamed rich people don't count? How about Joseph of Arimathea? He was a man apparently so rich and powerful as to get a crucified criminal a proper burial. None of them count?
What would satisfy you? The emperor along with the entire Roman senate coming to Judea to speak with Jesus?
Quote:Jesus was also mentioned by Josephus, yes part of what was said was added but not all of it.
Prove it.
The apologists have admitted the passage was tampered with. The assertion that the passage is "partially authentic" has so far not been backed up with anything aside from "it uses words Josephus would have used and stuff."
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Thanks Rayaan I could not get all the comments to hide.
Godschild
Try doing like I do. Only quote the passages you are replying to. It makes for a more readable reply.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
