[Serious] That Trans Thread

[The Grand Nudger]

Why were women's sports created in the first place? Was it due to sex, or identification?

Neither.  Merchandising and profit.

If it's in the rules that trans women can compete, then fine, let them compete. They are not monsters for competing. I'm advocating for those rules to change though, and who I'm criticizing is not necessarily the athletes themselves, but the rule makers and the activists. Just because there are rules allowing trans to compete, that doesn't make it right. Slavery was also legally allowed at one point in time, so an appeal to the law or official rules doesn't mean much, really. Competing in college sports or pro sports should be a privilege that is earned, not a right that is given out to whomever.

Sure, it's just like slavery................college sports, I mean, male or female.  

The trans activists basically admit here that their goal is the common good, which we should all care about obviously, but they are willing to put the totality of the "common good" over the competitiveness and fairness of sports. They're willing to sacrifice women's sports for the common good, but are not first willing to ask cis women if that's ok with them. The overwhelming majority of people are not willing to say that cis women should have to make that sacrifice though and this issue is a big loser., and this does not make people who think women's sports should be cis women's sports bad people, because you're pitting one group against another (yes, trans women are women, but a different kind of woman, otherwise there would be no need for the existence of the word trans in the first place as a category of woman. Trans woman is a sub category under woman), and forcing them to either throw cis women under the bus or trans women under the bus, and calling them Nazis when they don't make the call you would have made. People are just in a tough spot because you have to throw one group under the bus no matter what.

Athletes haven't traditionally had much of a voice in their sports.  As you note, it's not a right, and in general....if players don't like a thing they can go find a different league or just not play.  The same is true for those leagues if the customers don't want to pay.  As rev explained a bit above, the leagues have looked into this (and you can too) - and being trans isn;t the performance enhancing state of affairs you imagine it to be - the main effect on sports with regards to whether or not trans people can compete is the effect to the organizers bottom line.