RE: Russia and Ukraine
September 4, 2022 at 5:38 pm
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2022 at 5:38 pm by Irreligious Atheist.)
(September 4, 2022 at 5:21 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:My own asserted aims to not get sucked into WWIII? Doesn't every rational person on the planet want to avoid a third world war if possible? Isn't that why not one European government, or the American government, is willing to risk a no-fly zone, which is a massively neo-con position? I am not morally responsible for what happens to Ukrainians because Russia is the one killing them, not me. If I say I want to stay out of it, I am not morally responsible for what someone else chooses to do. If I said I supported giving Ukraine billions in weapons, THEN I would be in part responsible for the deaths, because I'm arguing for the artificial prolonging of the war and rising piles of bodies. That's a totally different story.A no-fly -zone would not lead to WW3 and giving Ukraine weapons to defend itself from invasion isn't what's caused deaths. Putin's moronic invasion is what's caused deaths, And yes saying you want to stay out of it is essentially signing Ukraine's death warrant....
If dealing with and cucking a nuclear armed power was as simple as you seem to think it could be, the no-fly zone or further bombing of Russia by the US and the West would have already taken place. It hasn't. The military generals are not suggesting it.
And Ukraine wanted to make a deal. Were they signing their own death warrant?