(September 6, 2022 at 4:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote:BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Given that Putin’s attempt to subjugate Ukraine was originally supposed to take three weeks
Is that what Western propaganda told you, or what the Kremlin said?
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Six months in and Russia controls barely 1/5 of Ukraine. This isn’t propaganda, it’s a brute fact. When you’re failing to achieve your objectives in a war, you’re losing. When you’re losing, the other side - by keeping you from achieving those objectives - is winning.
How do you know Russia's objectives?
BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I also prefer to see this war end via a treaty, you and I disagree on what the terms of that treaty should be.
I think your terms are unrealistic, while mine are a bit more feasible and, yet, I still think Russia would not agree to them.
Remember that Putin needs to come out of this as the apparent winner ( in the propaganda filled nation of his). Either that or the whole Russian system gets replaced from within (or by NATO) which will not happen.
1. It’s neither. Russian troops during the assault on Kyiv were supplied for three weeks and took along their dress uniforms for the victory parade.
2. Like Nudger said - Putin has said a) Ukraine has no right to exist as a sovereign state b) he wants to reconstitute Greater Russia (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine), and c) Ukraine needs to be de-Nazified.
3. Yes, my suggested terms are unrealistic. So what?
Boru
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