Russia and Ukraine

[Deesse23]

That's the problem with the current state of the world right now, though isn't it? People preferring to believe false spins that align with their warped, unrealistic ideals.

Leaves one wondering which spins are true and which ideals are realistic, doesn't it?
I gave up following the news on this because, on the one hand, the terrain seems to be mostly static; on the other hand, all I get from the media is "the UK says this", "The CIA says that", "according to Ukrainian sources", etc. oh, and "russian state media made this outrageous comment". Who is being truthful here?

That's why it said that it do not need a CIA operative, Ukrainian news, or Kremlin propaganda to evaluate the past push to Kiev. It is an established fact, and given the context in which it happened it's pretty safe to say, that not everything happened as planned.

IMHO you get into the trap of "there is s lot of disinformation out there. We do not know many things, therefore we do not know anything"

Much like the stereotypical Christian apologetic " science does not know everything, therefore it knows nothing"

No offense, but IMHO you are playing into Putin's cards. He is the one who would like to have everyone confused, because he needs to cover the simple and basic fact that he invaded another nation.