Russia and Ukraine

[Irreligious Atheist]

We are "aiding" people by using them as cannon fodder to advance our own goals. Like I posted before, if the goal is to weaken Russia at any cost of human life to the Ukrainians, then you can make a solid and logical case for doing that, but I believe that is a neo-con argument. I just disagree with the "at any human cost" part, and I think it's especially easy for us to act like we should be the ones that get the final say in Ukraine making a peace deal, because we're not the ones dying in the war and dealing with this on a daily basis.

Nope, we're helping a country retain its sovereignty against an invasion, and stopping Ukraine from making a bad deal is the right thing to do. This isn't a subject of disagreement you are simply wrong in every way.

And as far as the people going on about me being Canadian, there have been several posters who have told me to leave and go post on a Canadian forum, so that's what first made me get Trumpian vibes from some people and the "go back to your country" vibe. I'm aware there aren't many Trump or George Bush Jr fans on here, which is why it just strikes me as odd when people are using their arguments (not directed at you).

You clearly didn't get his comment 

I would not frown upon other nations not intervening if Canada was invaded, because messing with the US army is probably not a good idea on their part and I would not recommend it. Helping us with food or medical supplies? Sure. That's awesome.

Lol, yet you object when other countries do that with Ukraine .......

When did I object to helping Ukraine with food or medical supplies? I objected to telling Ukraine that their peace deal was not acceptable to us, and giving them billions in weapons to keep the proxy war against Russia marching on. And I objected to the West and Ukraine flirting with the NATO membership idea because the West escalating tensions like that only helped bring shit like this to fruition.