Russia and Ukraine

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You seem to mean to say that russia will pay any cost for a pyrrhic victory.  Whether or not that's a win...well.

Personally, just as the west over estimated russias comptence, and russia underestimated ukrainian resistrence- we're now overestimating russian will, and under estimating ukranian agency and resolve.  

Here, let me ask a question that hits the right buttons.  Did the us win in vietnam, or in afghanistan?  That's where russia currently finds itself, except worse...if you can imagine it.

The United States lost in Vietnam and Afghanistan, due to the United States making the logical decision to abandon both wars.  Likewise, Russia abandoned their efforts in Afghanistan.  I do not see them doing the same in Ukraine.

The US didn’t lose those wars because they abandoned them. They abandoned them because they lost (‘troop withdrawal’ plays better with the base than ‘got out collective arse handed to us’).

Likewise, Russia has already lost the Ukraine war, by any metric that matters.

Boru