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Ron Paul ignored.
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RE: Ron Paul ignored.
Quote:The thing about you is that you can't hold up a mirror and look at yourself
You are absolutely correct. I cannot hold up a mirror and look at myself right now because I do not own a hand held mirror. On the other hand, I find it very easy to look at myself in my huge bathroom mirror.
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Quote:You don't get it do you?
I think I do. Do you get it?
Quote:There is no "anti-authoritarian" solution to abortion; in both cases, someone's rights are overruled. If we legalise abortion, then innocent children are killed; if we criminalise it, then innocent women who are raped will suffer.
Yes there is an anti-authoritarian solution, and it is the one I suggested. Dont write legislations on the wall of someones womb.

Now, in the spirit of good argument, I will type as if your position is correct. If there is, as you say, no "anti-authoritarian" solution to abortion, then I personally would make my judgement in the idea of granting the most freedom. In other words, if I were to err, I would prefer to err in the direction of more freedom to the most amount of people as possible. that means I would STILL suggest that it is not the governments role to decide who MUST become a mother, and who has the option of terminating. I will choose the limited government solution because the government would only make matters worse in this situation.
Quote:The only logical solution which is rights-based is to have very specific conditions on when abortion should be allowed, and when it should not. That way, a woman who is raped does not have to suffer (as much), and an innocent baby born to a mother who got pregnant accidentally gets to live.
Logical? You cant even make up your mind wether rights should be voted on or not. If logic were to be thrown into this subject, then it would become even more inhumane. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the individual. Therefore, each and every pregnancy would be put to a popular vote regardless of the circumstances (rape, accident, willingness) surrounding the creation of the unborn baby. If the masses think we do not have enough resources to support the baby, they will vote that all pregnancies be terminated until an equilibrium is met. If the masses are in the middle of a war, then they would vote that all abortions become illegal in order to create more soldiers for the war...etc...etc..

Logic is NOT human. Logic can be so very cold and thoughtless that I would suggest logic to be the WORSE idea to use for this subject.

I have placed much thought into this topic, and although I may be wrong, I feel that my answer is the best we can do...and, to top it off, as I have said before, I am personally opposed to abortion. I find it disgusting. Yet, I still consider the best way to deal with this "problem" is to let the individual woman decide up or down, and nobody else.
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Ron Paul ignored. - by 5thHorseman - November 22, 2011 at 5:34 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - November 22, 2011 at 6:34 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Anymouse - November 22, 2011 at 6:42 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Prophet - November 29, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - November 29, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Prophet - November 29, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 29, 2011 at 8:19 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Prophet - November 29, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Erinome - November 29, 2011 at 8:35 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Jaysyn - November 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - November 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Erinome - November 29, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Prophet - November 29, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 29, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Cinjin - November 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by paintpooper - November 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Prophet - November 29, 2011 at 8:53 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - November 29, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 29, 2011 at 9:20 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Jaysyn - November 30, 2011 at 9:03 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 30, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Erinome - November 29, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - November 29, 2011 at 9:36 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 29, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Rev. Rye - November 29, 2011 at 9:40 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - November 29, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 29, 2011 at 10:02 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - November 29, 2011 at 10:33 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Erinome - November 30, 2011 at 8:33 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Mister Agenda - November 30, 2011 at 1:43 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 30, 2011 at 2:29 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - November 30, 2011 at 2:17 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Mister Agenda - November 30, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by paintpooper - November 30, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Mister Agenda - November 30, 2011 at 3:07 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2011 at 3:09 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 30, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Autumnlicious - November 30, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - November 30, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - November 30, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - December 1, 2011 at 6:57 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 2, 2011 at 2:11 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - December 2, 2011 at 6:03 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 2, 2011 at 10:57 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - December 2, 2011 at 3:36 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Grand Nudger - December 2, 2011 at 11:18 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 2, 2011 at 11:23 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Grand Nudger - December 2, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 2, 2011 at 11:29 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by The Grand Nudger - December 2, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 2, 2011 at 11:51 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 3, 2011 at 11:59 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - December 4, 2011 at 10:51 am
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - December 3, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 3, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by 5thHorseman - December 3, 2011 at 12:49 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 4, 2011 at 7:38 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - December 4, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 4, 2011 at 8:06 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Tiberius - December 8, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 9, 2011 at 1:28 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - December 9, 2011 at 1:38 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Autumnlicious - December 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 9, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Minimalist - December 20, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by Autumnlicious - December 20, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: Ron Paul ignored. - by reverendjeremiah - December 20, 2011 at 11:47 pm

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