Quote:I see what you mean.Ukraine doesn't lack democracy and openness. Banning parties that are fronts for a hostile foreign government is not the mark of a dictator.Volodymyr Zelensky can be voted out. Putin by contrast wins sham elections and has his political opponents killed left and right. His "popularity " is the result of state propaganda and censorship of anyone who would speak out. Hell, how many interviews with Russians have I heard something like " I don't want to get in trouble" when the subject of Putin comes up? The only way Putin is leaving office is in a coffin. So this statement is absurd .....
I was going by "drops below a certain level of democracy and openness." You're right that a government which drops below such a level need not be a dictatorship.

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“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM