Russia and Ukraine

[The Architect Of Fate]

So when Bel can't win on individual points he decides to take a page from the creationist playbook and use Gish Gallop hoping you won't go through all his nonsense and refute it. So i will do the cliff notes response.


1. Russia's sovereignty has not and never will be compromised by NATO and Russia was treated way too nicely by the west after the cold war this led to us ignoring a lunatic like Putin because we were willing to give him too much of a benefit of the doubt. So this idea Russia had to launch this invasion to defend itself is pure fantasy. Putin wants Ukraine so he invaded Ukraine it's simple as that. There is no elaberate reason or profound justfication. Just doing what Russian autocrats have always done....Expand....Expand ......Expand.


2. There was never going to be external regime change in Russia and Putin isn't a popular cultivated version of Putin created by the Russian state TV is. The Real Putin is a ruthless Oligarch whose very talented at convincing people he's not. 


3. Any deal between Turkey and Russia is doomed to fail as Putin and Erdogan will turn on each other and deals with central Asia will never pan out or replace Russia's need for the developed economies of the west . Putin has painted himself into a corner and these agreements are him flailing to get out.


4.The US is not trying to take over Europe and NATO is an Alliance, not a Hegemony. The US is powerful but it's not omniscient and only an America-centric arrogance would view it as such.


5. One doesn't need to have gone to Westpoint to see a war being lost. In every metric, Russia's invasion has been a disaster on par with the Soviet Unions invasion of Finland. These missile strikes are not the signs of a strong and victorious nation. They are the acts of a nation that knows it's lost and wants to try and burn as much as it can down before it does.