(October 25, 2022 at 12:01 pm)Helios Wrote: 3. Any deal between Turkey and Russia is doomed to fail as Putin and Erdogan will turn on each other and deals with central Asia will never pan out or replace Russia's need for the developed economies of the west . Putin has painted himself into a corner and these agreements are him flailing to get out.It was Erdogan blocking Finland and Sweden joining NATO. It was Erdogan who got what he wanted, remember? Had nothing to do with the US.
4.The US is not trying to take over Europe and NATO is an Alliance, not a Hegemony. The US is powerful but it's not omniscient and only an America-centric arrogance would view it as such.
And now....its Erdogan with whom Putin/Russia is trying to make deals? How politically incompetent and without any clear-cut foreign policy does one have to be, to deal with the guy who was responsible for your biggest political defeat in recent history (and doubling the length of the border to your alleged biggest enemy)?
Thats why i mentioned Bismarck, or any other person not utterly incompetent in politics: If you have a massive nuclear arsenal, an alleged massive conventional force (second to none on the planet), massive, nearly unlimited natural resources to make an entire continent depend on you, have removed any opposition (= autocratic) in domestic politics, and you end up seeing a war of aggression as your last resort (for whatever reason to achieve whatever, politically or economically), then you have failed, completely and utterly failed.
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