Russia and Ukraine

[Irreligious Atheist]

Or a thing that ukranians wouldn't want, for that matter.  How hard was the pitch going to be, really?  "We've got guns, yall want some guns?"

But it clearly doesn’t matter what Ukraine wants (at least according to IA). They are simply a lackey of Western Imperialism and don’t care about trivial shit like self-determination. It’s much easier to wait for Boris to tell them what to do.

Boru

If NATO wasn't providing all of the weapons, I'd be fine with Ukraine fighting to the last man, if that's what they wanted to do. What I'm not fine with, is a war between NATO and Russia, which is happening now, unofficially. What I'm not fine with, is us going deep into Russia to attack their bases. We did that. NATO. And Ukrainians are freezing right now because of NATO.

Should Ukraine have accepted the peace deal? Who the hell knows. The West/United States was arming rebels in Syria knowing that those weapons were mostly falling into the hands of Al Qaeda and Isis and their affiliates, and now NATO is going deep into Russia to attack their bases. That's a hair away from WWIII. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton brought open slave markets back to the streets of Libya, so why would the US getting involved in things ever be a bad idea? I don't know. NATO are the good guys, right, so what is there to worry about? A world war has never happened before, right, twice, so like Helios says, we should just assume that a world war is never going to happen again. Nukes are irrelevant. They may as well not exist, etc, etc. This is what I'm told by Helios.