The historical Jesus--dead wrong, literally.

[Barre]

Where's the historical part? The book of old myths that you're quoting?

Strictly speaking, I am offering an interpretation of Jesus' last hours in gMark and in particular, the words that Jesus allegedly spoke just before he died. I do think we do have the actual words of Jesus because of two principles of historical Jesus research: Embarassment and Orality. Accordingly, we have here what was originally an oral tradition that was taken up by gMark which served as the first edition of the Gospel of Mark.

Mark 15:34 (oral)-->gMark-->gospel of Mark.

gMark thus precedes the composition of the Gospel of Mark which many think was written around 70 CE. And the oral traditon precedes gMark.

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The statement was Jesus' way of defending his claim to be the Messiah.

Ah - but the MYTH of the christ (Who can only be proven to be no more real than Zeus or Peter Pan ) did not even begin to fulfill the requirements for being the messiah.

First - his name was to be Emanuel - not Yeshua
He was supposed to be a HUMAN of the line of David - not a son of god
He was supposed to unite all the people in the world under the jewish religion - and have every non-jew admit that they were wrong. THat pretty much eliminates christianity from consideration alone

But - more important - there was NO reason to need a messiah to begin with - most of the early parts of Bible book of genesis are already proven to be fairy tales and severely exaggerated legends - certainly the earth is far older than the implied about 6000 years the bible dates show - and we also know that the story of Adam and Eve is nonsense - with historical humans existing on earth Hundreds of thousands of years before that myth. No Garden - no original sin.

WE KNOW the great flood is a myth - if it did happen there would have a time in the historical record where ALL the humans on earth would have been wiped out except for a handful of Hebrews - but we have complete chronological records of the Egyptians from BEFORE the time of Jewish Creation to Today.

However - any intelligent person can easily falsify the christian/jewish/islamic MYTHS as fake based on a couple of obviously impossible claims - 1 - THAT the god is Almighty - there is NOTHING the god cannot do
2 - THAT the god is All Knowing - Past -Present - and Future
THAT is not possible under ANY circumstances.

A truly intelligent person already know that a claim of almighty cannot be just on its own. THe ability to do one thing - often will prevent the ability to do the opposite. Example - No being can be the largest and smallest being at the same time. There are literally thousands of such things that can be brought up. And since there can be both a smallest and largest being - it cannot be claimed that the god can do everything possible.

But the Claim of Omniscience is what kills all the religions. IF a god did know everything - then the ONLY thing that could happen is what the god already knew - and that would eliminate the ability to choose - even the god would NOT have that ability. YOU could not choose something the god did not know - which leaves only ONE possible route - and ONE is not a choice - it is a requirement. Obviously it a god cannot change its mind - it cannot be almighty - as well. And the idea that we are responsible for our "choices" is also eliminated in the discussion. THe claim of free will cannot be true. SInce humans only exist during their lifetimes - their choices can only be made in their lifetimes - and since they cannot choose among the options that the god does NOT know - they can ONLY do what the god already knew - killing the religious claim.

I am not here covertly holding uncritical views of things like the Flood and the story of Adam and Eve. I regard both stories as myth.

I also regard as myth both Messianic ideology and Apocalypticism. The fatal flaw of the tragic hero Jesus was that he subscribed to these false, disproven, antiquated concepts.