(January 20, 2023 at 5:01 am)Deesse23 Wrote:(January 20, 2023 at 2:17 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Looks like tanks are going to shipped, either with or without Germany's approval. We Americans should have done so already, even a bone-stock M-1 is a T-72 killer. Bravo Poland if they take the leap to send Leo IIs.
Right now another conference is happening in Ramstein.
Zelensky was in an interview on German television yesterday, saying "You can keep talking (about tanks) for 6 more months. Here, people are dying. Our people are dying. If you have tanks, please give them to us."
US refuses to ship M-1ses, citing maintenance issues n stuff as reasonf for not doing so.
Krauss Maffei says its willing and able to refurbish Leo-IIs. 20 this year, some dozen more in the next 20 months. Another supplier is offerign to refurbish Leo-I, bought from Oman. Thes tanks would be availiable on very short notice.
Our reasoning for not shipping Abrams also included that "they run on jet fuel" -- which is asinine, because 1) those tanks are multifuel and 2) jet fuel is one of the most easily refined POLs, barely above kerosene in the fractionation process. This is political cowardice on the part of the Biden administration, in my view.
