(February 9, 2023 at 12:34 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(February 9, 2023 at 10:33 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: One thing about Russian culture is that they value men a lot.
Do they..though...really...? Seems like a lot of dead russian men might argue to the contrary. Hell, living russian women have been known to call that one a lie. Who cares if their sons and brothers and husbands and fathers die. They're a bunch of unemployed wifebeating drunks. A bag of carrots and a sack of potatoes might actually be an upgrade, or so they've said. Hell, the war in ukraine is basically an episode of oprah - check under your dead men, cause there's a free car!
In contrast, since we're talking about valuing men. Know what the basic payout is for a dead us soldier to his listed survivors? 100k, 250k (or more - and there are itemized lists all the way down to the loss of individual digits - thumbs are money baby - and dicks..may as well be gold plated!) if he pays some piddly ass fee....plus whatever pay he's owed or has squirreled away - and in the case of his children, full or partial transference of whatever benefits he's earned in service and didn't live to cash out. They get his social security too. Here in the us, for better and for worse and regardless of how we feel about it, soldiers are lionized, we're heroes. In russia? They're suckers. Marks. Food for enemy artillery.
The King of Battle thanks them for their sacrifice, and drinks deeply of their spilt blood, from the hallowed out skulls of the fallen.
That’s a good point too. Those Western standards are not applied in most armies of the developing world. This is also a sign of how stupid authoritarian people are. They literally decimate their own military force. I won’t go into details because I am experiencing this first hand here. But as I said. Soldiers are our guardians. So looking after their family is one of the basic thing to do when those men die.
I was talking of a more social phenomenon. There is this urban legend in my region about the virtues of Russian Girls. I am simply considering the possibility of some of the aspects of this urban legend to be true and I am saying that it could be because Wars in Russian Culture are more or less endless since imperial times and that therefore, Russian women may have come to value their men more than other women in other cultures.
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