(February 15, 2023 at 12:57 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:(February 15, 2023 at 6:34 am)Belacqua Wrote: Canada, the US, most of Western Europe, Japan, New Zealand, and Australia are under the sway of the corporate, pro-war media. When someone says "the world condemns Russia," these countries are what they mean by "the world."I live in Europe
Please tell me what news media i am consuming............right, you dont know. But what you know is that i am wrong because i dont agree with you, right? Of course this is irrational (or even deliberately dishonest) from your side, and you know it, thats why you wrap this up in a nice "poisoning the well" fallacy: I am wrong, because i listen to the wrong media, yet you dont even know what i am consuming.
P.S.: You forgot to mention most of Eastern Europe, Scandinavia and the Baltic, since they dont agree with you as well. They are under propaganda too, because.......right?
I think that this attitude is also slowly changing. I see there is a change of discourse on the part of the Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi. In their 12 Point peace plan even they are slowly acknowledging Ukraine’s rights of sovereignty. As President Joe Biden dais in Warsaw 2-3 days ago, Democracies stood united with Ukraine. And the vote in the UN shows that no one is backing Russia’s military campaign right now.
A Historical parallel to this is perhaps Hannibal’s campaign against Romans in the 2nd century BC. Hannibal was hoping that when he would make it to the gates of Rome everyone would turn against Rome and he would be victorious. The effect of his invasion was the opposite. The citizens of Rome organized themselves and rebuilt their armies while most of the cities around Rome decided to remain loyal to Rome rather than Surrender to the Carthaginians + The Carthaginians themselves betrayed Hannibal who ended up being assassinated a few years later in a place in Asia Minor. (Or that’s how I see it).
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