RE: Russia and Ukraine
March 13, 2023 at 11:55 pm
(This post was last modified: March 13, 2023 at 11:55 pm by Irreligious Atheist.)
(March 13, 2023 at 11:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(March 13, 2023 at 9:22 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: NATO said recently that Ukraine will be let into NATO eventually, ruining the prospect of peace anytime soon. Russia is in this till the bitter end now, as they probably should be.
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Why? Why is whether or not ukraine decides to be in nato russia's business, and russia's business to decide by invasion and genocide, if so? What kind of "peacenik" says that russia should be in their war, to the bitter end, because of this?
Temet nosce.
...and about those bitter ends. Just how long do you think russia can sustain the rates of loss observed? Forever?
Russia's geo-political power and status is being threatened, and NATO wants to encroach even closer to its' borders. Also, Putin is terrified of ethnic Russians dying out, since there are far less young ethnic Russians than there are older ones. He's panicking, and the power grab and preventing things from falling apart is either going to happen now, or never, so he's choosing now. Letting Ukraine become a part of NATO is not an option for Putin and his survival.
NATO was not fully publicly committed to letting Ukraine in for sure in the future, and they kept a more neutral stance, which was a better sign for prospects for peace, but now NATO is saying for sure, there will come a day Ukraine joins. How is Russia supposed to react to that kind of massive increased provocation towards their country?
Why should China not start arming Russia when China sees that they could be next?
China warns US to change course or risk conflict.