(March 14, 2023 at 12:43 am)Helios Wrote:Quote:Russia's geo-political power and status is being threatened,A self-inflicted wound due to its own belligerent policies with neighbors. No country is entitled to power at the cost of others.
Quote:and NATO wants to encroach even closer to its' borders.NATO is already at the Russian border via the Baltic states. You didn't see Putin throwing a fit and launching an invasion then. This isn't about borders it's about Putin's belief Ukraine shouldn't be a country of its own. He has said as much.
Quote:Also, Putin is terrified of ethnic Russians dying out, since there are far less young ethnic Russians than there are older ones.Ethnicity is not justification for invading another country. That's some Lebensraum bullshit. If Britain's population was dying out it wouldn't give them the right to invade Australia and look for the ethnically pure brits.
Quote:He's panicking, and the power grab and preventing things from falling apart is either going to happen now, or never, so he's choosing now. Letting Ukraine become a part of NATO is not an option for Putin and his survival.Ukraine joining NATO was never a threat to Russia any more than any other eastern European state that joined before it. Putin wasn't panicking he's been quite lucid on his reasons why Ukraine should not exist and should be absorbed back into Russia. These aren't the acts of a desperate man these are the acts of an imperialist trying to reassert his domain at someone else's expense.
Quote:NATO was not fully publicly committed to letting Ukraine in for sure in the future, and they kept a more neutral stance, which was a better sign for prospects for peace, but now NATO is saying for sure, there will come a day Ukraine joins. How is Russia supposed to react to that kind of massive increased provocation towards their country?There is absolutely no reason NATO should take a neutral stance and no reason Ukraine as the sovereign state doesn't have the right to join NATO. Neither of these is a provocation or a reason for Russia to act like a whiny child that's not getting its way. Russia has no say in Ukraine's foreign policy or NATO policy.
Quote:Why should China not start arming Russia when China sees that they could be next?Pure delusion
So to sum up you have given no rational reason for the invasion. Just Kremlin talking points and foreign policy fanfiction
His (political) naivety combind with lack of regard for other peopel of other nations is shocking. I bet he has no clue about his own stance.
A ton of eastern european countries have joined NATO for exactly the same reason Ukraine (and now Finland and Sweden) is. They pose the same, if not a bigger threat (look at polands stance toward Russia, its poilicy and weapons sent to Ukraine). Would IA been aOK with Russia invaing all of those too?
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