Russia and Ukraine

[Irreligious Atheist]

I just came into the thread to correct Thump who besmirched my name by saying I was wrong about the peace deal being scuttled by NATO. And now, Thump's new claim is that the former PM of Israel knows nothing about what's going on in the world, and that we have to take world leaders words like that with a grain of salt, proving that Thump knows even less about the world than I thought he did before. He's absolutely clueless.

You were wrong anyway moron so Thump did nothing of the kind, And the rest of your strawmen aren't even worth bothering with 

And as far as accusations by Helios like saying I want Ukraine to bend over and give up, I didn't write any such thing. 

Yeah, you pretty much did. And pretty much have.

Ukrainians can fight all they'd like and I respect whatever decision they make. 

Bullshit 

I just don't see it as my fight. They can fight all they want, without my weapons. 

Then you're an idiot and they aren't your weapons to keep or give away. 

NATO protections are my privilege,not theirs,  and they are not to be handed out like candy. No, Ukrainians don't get special treatment from me because they have blonde hair and blue eyes. I can't help bring freedom to the people of Uganda, Yemen, North Korea, and the people of over 100 other nations, so yeah, I'm kind of just treating Ukraine with equality here, while people go on the news talking about how sad it is to see a country of blue eyed people under attack

Nope, they are whoever NATO decides has that privilege you aren't in charge of NATO so your thoughts on who gets protection means fuck all. And this is such a pathetic out. The idea you can't save every country means you shouldn't save any countries. You not treating anyone with equality or any kind of higher principle you are simply an apathist clown making excuses. And trying to imply this is about race. Holy shit you are delusional


So again IA shows what a clown he is

Thump didn't question what the Israeli PM said. He and I are in agreement on that, so that's a you problem. Thump only argued that the Israeli PM wouldn't be privy to that kind of information, because he's Israeli and not British or American or Ukrainian. I, on the other hand, tend to think the former Israeli PM would be very much privy to that information if he wanted to know it.

And Tomato brought up race, so why are you calling out me for that rather than Tomato? Think, my dude. Call out Tomato for taking it there, not me. I just responded to his little clownish insult he made because he's still uppity about me pointing out how gross it was for him to try to imply that self defense = dragging someone on the ground and assaulting them after they've tried to run away. If it was a video of two kids having a fist fight, then fine, question what caused the fight, but when someone is dragged on the ground running away, there is zero way Tomato can try to spin that around into a case of self defense. Now, I hope we're done talking about that news story and we can move on, and I shouldn't even be posting this now as I'm just falling for Tomato baiting me into talking about it more. So, that's the end of talking about that story. Now, moving on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=pU-8gKaUO_Y


You only care about Ukraine because it's next to Russia. That's it. If you have Ukrainian blood in you and I don't know about it, I'll take that remark back and apologize, but as of now, my stance is that you only care because they're next to Russia. I don't think you care about Ukrainians being white, but many do care about that.

And Nudge was entirely correct, I must say, when he brought up that many alt-righters just admire Putin because they think he's based. Many of the alt-righters who were once arguing against Islam, are now kind of starting to turn around and say, maybe the Muslims were the based ones all along. I'm talking about the Andrew Tate or incelly type of alt-righters. They're starting to think the Muslims have it right when it comes to keeping the women at home, not allowing them to drive or vote, etc. Putting the clamps down on public displays of homosexuality like some Muslim countries and Putin do. Absolutely real phenomena Nudge was talking about, but if he thinks that's me I just have to laugh. Me, of all people, likes to see gay people getting beaten up in the streets of Russia by bigoted Catholic Russians? I see that and my response is, Putin is so based and bad ass? Not quite. That's not me.