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Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says
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RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says
Spitzer, who (to be fair), deserves massive credit for being the leading force in the removal of homosexuality from the realm of mental disorders to a normal difference, had this to say about his 2001 study:

Quote:Several months ago I told you that because of my revised view of my 2001 study of reparative therapy changing sexual orientation, I was considering writing something that would acknowledge that I now judged the major critiques of the study as largely correct. After discussing my revised view of the study with Gabriel Arana, a reporter for American Prospect, and with Malcolm Ritter, an Associated Press science writer, I decided that I had to make public my current thinking about the study. Here it is.

Basic Research Question. From the beginning it was: "can some version of reparative therapy enable individuals to change their sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual?" Realizing that the study design made it impossible to answer this question, I suggested that the study could be viewed as answering the question, "how do individuals undergoing reparative therapy describe changes in sexual orientation?" – a not very interesting question.

The Fatal Flaw in the Study – There was no way to judge the credibility of subject reports of change in sexual orientation. I offered several (unconvincing) reasons why it was reasonable to assume that the subject's reports of change were credible and not self-deception or outright lying. But the simple fact is that there was no way to determine if the subject's accounts of change were valid.
I believe I owe the gay community an apology for my study making unproven claims of the efficacy of reparative therapy. I also apologize to any gay person who wasted time and energy undergoing some form of reparative therapy because they believed that I had proven that reparative therapy works with some "highly motivated" individuals.[

He is rightly regarded as a major influence in psychiatric medicine. He disavowal of his own fatally flawed study is one of the things that made him a truly great scientist.

Winter, on the other hand, is still an idiot.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 23, 2023 at 4:59 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 23, 2023 at 11:36 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Aegon - March 24, 2023 at 3:21 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Deesse23 - March 23, 2023 at 6:03 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 23, 2023 at 6:26 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Gwaithmir - March 23, 2023 at 8:01 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 23, 2023 at 11:41 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 23, 2023 at 12:03 pm
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RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by brewer - March 23, 2023 at 10:29 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by no one - March 23, 2023 at 10:39 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 23, 2023 at 11:50 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Nay_Sayer - March 23, 2023 at 11:52 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Fireball - March 23, 2023 at 12:07 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Belacqua - March 25, 2023 at 5:38 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 25, 2023 at 11:41 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Nay_Sayer - March 25, 2023 at 11:43 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 26, 2023 at 12:18 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Angrboda - March 25, 2023 at 11:47 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 23, 2023 at 11:55 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Rev. Rye - March 23, 2023 at 10:59 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Belacqua - March 24, 2023 at 12:58 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Nay_Sayer - March 24, 2023 at 1:02 am
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RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Rev. Rye - March 25, 2023 at 12:30 am
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RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 27, 2023 at 7:35 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by no one - March 25, 2023 at 10:59 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Angrboda - March 25, 2023 at 12:11 pm
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Rev. Rye - March 25, 2023 at 2:02 pm
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RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Nay_Sayer - March 26, 2023 at 12:23 am
RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by WinterHold - March 27, 2023 at 7:27 pm
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RE: Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says - by Rev. Rye - March 25, 2023 at 11:00 pm
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