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The speed of light, stars, and YEC?
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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC?
Stalter, just because Richard Dawkins said evolution is a complete 100% undeniable fact does not mean everyone who supports it believes the same thing. If someone on here makes a claim that they don't believe it can be known 100% then saying they think it is a reasonable possibility is definitely consistent and logical.

Attacking people for saying that would be like me quoting William Lane Craig and saying "See Christians ultimately would never give up beliefs even in light of contradictory evidence". That is basically in his book called Reasonable Faith just in case you think I am misrepresenting him.

As far as representations of intelligence producing intelligence how does that necessitate a deity who simply speaks things into existence?

Even if we have no representation of intelligence being produced without intelligence we most certainly don't have direct evidence of a supernatural being speaking matter into existence.

That would be impossible to measure scientifically anyway as God is said to be non-physical and undetectable by material means. Perhaps you disagree with that statement and I am curious as to why if you do.

You did mention that you believe creationism is scientific could you be more specific as to how you think it is? I am not trying to be insulting but I am not familiar with all the intricacies of your reasoning so I was hoping you would be willing to clarify.
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The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 8, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 8, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 8, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 8, 2011 at 12:50 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Mister Agenda - December 8, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by thesummerqueen - December 8, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by downbeatplumb - December 8, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 8, 2011 at 3:19 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 8, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 8, 2011 at 4:12 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Cinjin - December 8, 2011 at 6:41 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by helmespc - December 17, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Statler Waldorf - December 8, 2011 at 9:46 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 9, 2011 at 7:51 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 8, 2011 at 10:34 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 8, 2011 at 11:11 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by stephensalias - December 9, 2011 at 3:08 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anymouse - December 10, 2011 at 4:54 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Norfolk And Chance - December 11, 2011 at 10:48 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 9, 2011 at 3:33 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by AnunZi - December 9, 2011 at 5:06 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by tackattack - December 9, 2011 at 8:22 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 9, 2011 at 12:24 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 9, 2011 at 12:30 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Statler Waldorf - December 9, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 9, 2011 at 10:05 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by rjh4 - December 23, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 23, 2011 at 10:15 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by rjh4 - December 27, 2011 at 1:04 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 27, 2011 at 9:09 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by rjh4 - December 27, 2011 at 12:50 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 24, 2011 at 5:18 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - December 17, 2011 at 11:51 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 9, 2011 at 10:32 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 9, 2011 at 11:18 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 9, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 9, 2011 at 12:40 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 9, 2011 at 12:49 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 9, 2011 at 5:12 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Statler Waldorf - December 9, 2011 at 5:50 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by tackattack - December 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 11, 2011 at 7:05 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 9, 2011 at 6:27 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Statler Waldorf - December 9, 2011 at 7:52 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Erinome - December 9, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 9, 2011 at 9:14 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by stephensalias - December 10, 2011 at 2:00 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by stephensalias - December 11, 2011 at 3:14 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 11, 2011 at 3:27 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 11, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Erinome - December 11, 2011 at 6:07 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by dtango - December 11, 2011 at 10:33 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by popeyespappy - December 11, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by tackattack - December 12, 2011 at 6:32 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 12, 2011 at 7:52 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by tackattack - December 12, 2011 at 8:20 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 12, 2011 at 8:31 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 12, 2011 at 8:38 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 12, 2011 at 4:16 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 12, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 12, 2011 at 4:25 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by frankiej - December 12, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 12, 2011 at 5:43 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 12, 2011 at 6:44 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 12, 2011 at 7:58 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 12, 2011 at 6:56 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by dtango - December 13, 2011 at 6:53 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Faith No More - December 13, 2011 at 8:49 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by dtango - December 13, 2011 at 9:57 am
The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 12, 2011 at 8:47 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 12, 2011 at 9:02 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 12, 2011 at 10:23 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 12, 2011 at 10:32 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by tackattack - December 13, 2011 at 5:21 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 13, 2011 at 1:46 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 13, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by tackattack - December 14, 2011 at 3:05 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anymouse - December 14, 2011 at 4:52 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by tackattack - December 14, 2011 at 6:33 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 14, 2011 at 9:59 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 14, 2011 at 10:38 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Statler Waldorf - December 14, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Anomalocaris - December 14, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 15, 2011 at 8:29 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - December 17, 2011 at 8:31 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 14, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by 5thHorseman - December 14, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Statler Waldorf - December 16, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 16, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 17, 2011 at 8:09 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - December 18, 2011 at 8:59 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2011 at 7:14 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 16, 2011 at 8:36 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Jackalope - December 18, 2011 at 9:38 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Erinome - December 18, 2011 at 9:41 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - December 21, 2011 at 12:42 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - December 22, 2011 at 3:47 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - December 22, 2011 at 4:09 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - December 21, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2011 at 1:55 pm
The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 22, 2011 at 9:15 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - December 22, 2011 at 9:17 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by helmespc - December 22, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 3:49 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by coffeeveritas - December 22, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by coffeeveritas - December 23, 2011 at 2:43 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - December 23, 2011 at 2:46 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by coffeeveritas - December 23, 2011 at 3:09 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 3:11 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by coffeeveritas - December 23, 2011 at 3:51 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 3:54 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 10:22 pm
The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 25, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 27, 2011 at 1:19 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by rjh4 - December 27, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by rjh4 - December 27, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - December 27, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Statler Waldorf - December 30, 2011 at 9:03 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by DeistPaladin - December 31, 2011 at 4:06 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Whateverist - December 31, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 31, 2011 at 5:57 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - January 16, 2012 at 8:59 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Darwinning - January 19, 2012 at 6:22 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Jackalope - December 30, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - December 31, 2011 at 2:43 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Jackalope - December 31, 2011 at 2:48 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Whateverist - December 30, 2011 at 11:07 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Jackalope - December 30, 2011 at 11:16 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Voltair - December 31, 2011 at 12:21 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Jackalope - December 31, 2011 at 1:48 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Jackalope - January 10, 2012 at 9:18 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - January 10, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Zen Badger - January 11, 2012 at 6:49 am
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - January 19, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Jackalope - January 19, 2012 at 8:59 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by tomjscott - September 23, 2015 at 5:15 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Alex K - September 23, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - September 23, 2015 at 5:20 pm
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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - September 23, 2015 at 6:41 pm
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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by JesusHChrist - September 23, 2015 at 6:46 pm
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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Minimalist - September 23, 2015 at 7:17 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by dyresand - September 23, 2015 at 7:27 pm
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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by JesusHChrist - September 23, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by The Grand Nudger - September 23, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by TheRealJoeFish - September 23, 2015 at 8:19 pm
RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by KevinM1 - September 23, 2015 at 8:23 pm
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RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC? - by Faith No More - September 23, 2015 at 9:43 pm
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