The speed of light, stars, and YEC?

[Zen Badger]

And not one of them worth pissing on

Well opinions won’t get you far in science, if the math works with the models then the models are valid, which it does indeed work.

'If the math works" you keep saying that but you've never shown how it works.

BTW, how's your ASC holding up? I have a refutation for that, in the very discovery that revealed that lightspeed was not infinite as previously thought.

Holding up just fine actually.

You think so? Then look at this......
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...KGK2VDqFYA

To keep it simple for you, in 1676 Ole Roemer, by observing the transit of Io behind Jupiter calculated when it should reappear, then demonstrated that the times differed depending on where Earth was in its orbit. This showed that light was taking longer to get to Earth the further away from Jupiter it was. Therefore proving that contrary to previous belief c was not infinite.

And, incidentally, shooting ASC stone cold dead before it was even born.

No, they are theological only, we have yet to see any scientific basis for your bullshit.

Creationism is not based on science!
Yes it is, they have plenty of scientific evidence.
That’s not scientific evidence.
Why not?
Because Creationism is not based on science!

You are the king of the circular argument, did you know that?

Don't put words in my mouth, that is extremely bad manners, even for you.

Where is your "scientific evidence" for creationism? where is it, cos all I've seen is ridiculous canards like ASC and continental drift happening at thousands of miles an hour. And no-one with even the faintest understanding of basic physics could ever take either seriously.

I might be able to see if I understood how a metaphoric fall from grace would work. Can you help me out here?

It works because it keeps the sheep feeling guilty just for being alive and therefore so much easier to manipulate.