RE: The speed of light, stars, and YEC?
December 10, 2011 at 4:54 am
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2011 at 4:56 am by Anymouse.)
(December 9, 2011 at 3:08 am)stephensalias Wrote: These religion and science debates are fascinating to me. A poster above mentioned that our physical laws show no evidence of changing. Given that, and the law of entropy, how does any model of cosmology make sense? The chain of events that produced life is infinitely ordered. It is so ordered, in fact, that it produced a self ordering human race. Not only that, but the order can be seen even at microscopic levels. How does one account for this scientifically?
What is viewed as "order" may in fact only be a perception. "Order" (such as a star forming, or animals) brings about entropy (ultimate decay) much faster (stars becoming degenerate, black holes, etc; animals processing resources much faster). Order therefore can be defined as a vehicle to achieve entropy, or disorder, fnord.
Benoit Mandelbrot, pondering the question of how sand dunes create such ordered rows from seemingly random grains of sand, or shapes of beaches doing the same, or the apparent fractal shape of tree branches and roots, developed a mathematical model to show this (the Mandelbrot Set - see Wikipedia for the fascinating way Mandelbrot hijacked IBM for his own research, and the very simple equation that came out of his study).
Posters of the Set are available at fine head shops everywhere, but essentially it shows how seemingly random objects will form an ordered solution. Mandelbrot's theory works well to show order (in this case abiogenesis) can arise from any random set (random non-living molecules).
Hail Eris. All Hail Discordia. Hell Yes.
"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."