(May 11, 2023 at 5:43 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:(May 10, 2023 at 10:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Excellent, and so..we can scientifically say that there are @ 300k unreported crimes involving a firearm going on every year. Brandishing and threatening are, ofc, illegal in the us.
No, it's almost an order of a magnitude more. There are, according to the Gary Kleck's study (and quite a few other studies arrive at a similar result), around 2.5 million defensive gun uses per year. In about 20% of them, the gun is actually fired. The 300k is just the Gary Kleck's estimate of the number of people who have been actually saved by guns, who would die if they hadn't had a gun. And, to the best of my knowledge, no other study tried to estimate how many lives are saved by guns each year. So, the Gary Kleck's study is the best data we have on this, and we have to accept it.
How on Earth can Kleck determine how man people would have died if they hadn’t had a gun? Remember that Kleck also includes gun owners’ encounters with animals. Would Joe Glockbearer have died if he hadn’t shot the bunny rabbit?
If ‘the best data we have on this’ is hopelessly flawed and at variance with observed facts, why should we accept it?
Boru
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