(June 8, 2023 at 11:48 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: From russias point of view, the only thing catastrophic about blowing the dam is that it didn't work. There are probably more than a few of the western trained brigades that got a quick and dirty rip-alike training. A flood like this can be a gift. Now you don't have to land on well mined and well cleared bank with no cover and run uphill under fire in the mud towards an enemy with structure cover. You can park your riverine boats directly behind flooded structure cover hundreds of m inside the previous contact line and offload. Ranger god approves.
Ukraine already owned that river and had already made preparations for riverine operation in kinburn spit...russia had no way to get anything in there to contest that, then they did what, made the area of control bigger, gave ukranian boats freer and larger range of ingress? With enemies like this..who needs friends?
(and...I know, I know, we're thinking of the humanitarian disaster, and we all feel for people stuck on roofs...but that's not really a useful or even prudent way to think about what happens during a war.)
People died on “their side” or the Dnipro as well.
Still, I now hear the Ukrainian offensive has started despite that. Yesterday there were debates on whether this would stop or delay the Ukrainian offensive. Today I’m hearing that it is not and that things are going well for the Ukrainian troops in General. Here is a nice article on that:
Former Tank Commander's Estimations on the Ukranian offensive
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