RE: Conscience and the Moral Argument as Evidence for the Goodness of God.
July 8, 2023 at 2:27 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2023 at 2:30 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 8, 2023 at 2:13 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:No, lol, I don't believe in gods. I do think that there are moral facts- but it’s probably not worthwhile to get into the specifics. They aren’t needed to compare god concepts and how they interact with our other beliefs and explanations. The short version is that whatever the standard happens to be…if you believe in one, and you believe that the gods are good- they can only be good if they do meet that standard.(July 8, 2023 at 1:59 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It’s not meaningless, it’s just a bad consequence for some god concepts.
For others, it’s no problem at all. Yes, there really is some external standard of goodness that the gods love because it is good- and this is a demonstration that they are good.
So you believe in the gods then ?
Where did the external standard come from, and what is it ? Where and when was it articulated ?
Provide a couple, please.
It's a demonstration of nothing. Prove it, and don't use any of YOUR OWN standards.
There is no universal definition of "good". It's why there are ethics committees in every hospital (pretty much) in the world.
What is "good" is entirely situational.
The other explanation is, ofc, an option for people who believe that good is not based on any such thing, rather, that we call good whatever the gods (or we) happen to be. Arbitrary. A consequence of purely internal and entirely convenient circumstance.
God being identical to the good, absent any external standard of that good, is the second option. Not a third.
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