RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 10, 2023 at 8:12 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2023 at 8:13 pm by Angrboda.)
(July 10, 2023 at 7:58 pm)Loaded dice Wrote:(July 10, 2023 at 7:48 pm)Angrboda Wrote: There have been plenty who have conceived of God as simply annihilating us upon death, which they see as the most benevolent act.
Plenty of people are morons who believe in moronic things, we know, thanks for the info.
Brilliant argument. It doesn't follow from that that they are wrong, but at least you got to vent some spleen.
(July 10, 2023 at 7:58 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: God annihilating both Hitler and his victims forever, with no justice served, is infinitely malevolent and evil. It radically contradicts benevolence. If you disagree with that, I am not sure you have the equipment to continue this conversation.
Unless treating Hitler and others differently from each other was a greater evil such that the minimization of evil required annihilating all equally.
Like many pedestrian theists, you lack imagination, in addition to often having other cognitive deficits. I knew as much from your opening post given that you think an argument from design is a slam dunk. The design argument is fatally flawed and your insistence that it is valid doesn't make it so. As you said, many people believe incorrect things, that you believe this doesn't make it so.
(July 10, 2023 at 7:58 pm)Loaded dice Wrote:(July 10, 2023 at 7:48 pm)Angrboda Wrote: It sounds like you're projecting, ala "If I were a benevolent God then I would do X" -- but you aren't a benevolent god and so your speculation is uninformative.
I know what the word benevolent means and that's enough. We can understand properties without personally possessing these properties.
Do you know what benevolent means to God? No. Again, you are projecting based upon what you as a limited mortal understand of such things, but your understanding is not God's understanding and so the fact that you understand benevolent thusly doesn't mean dick for our purposes here. And you still haven't surmounted the problem that there do exist real mysteries about God.
(July 10, 2023 at 7:58 pm)Loaded dice Wrote:(July 10, 2023 at 7:48 pm)Angrboda Wrote: And I didn't say that God's nature was completely mysterious. Learn to read.
Right, you only said that God is mysterious. And by that you meant that God is only mildly, but not completely, mysterious. So we do know some things about God, as traditionally conceived, after all, huh ?
I never disputed that. God being partially mysterious is sufficient to conclude that you cannot know necessarily that God would do any specific X based upon your limited, mortal, and incomplete comprehension of Him.
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