Easy arguments against the Bible, and religion as a whole

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i find it amazing how some here say christians are closed minded but prove themselves to be closed minded. i hear ppl saying "they assume it's the word of god but it's not." that right there is assuming it's not the word of god.

Most of us have actually fucking read it, and aren't just assuming. We're utterly disgusted by the piece of shit bible and if it is the word of god, then we can only assume that god is a prick who can go fuck himself. There's a fucking assumption for ya.

let's not make this personal this is purly intelectual. missing the point, you can't rule something out without evidence and those that do are closed minded.

ppl saying it sounds rediculous but evolution and the big bang theory sounds equally if not more rediculous. it's basically saying a puzzle put itself together by random events and luck. that something more complicated than anything we have ever built just happened.

No, twit. What sounds ridiculous is the fucking earth and everything on it being formed in less than a week by a god who sounds suspiciously like an stone ax wielding goat herdsman with a political agenda. That sounds fucking stupid. It also sounds ridiculous when people who obviously don't know a goddamn thing about evolution dismiss it for their absurd, uninteresting, offensive little myths.

again intelectual and i know that's not from the bible. and god clearly doesn't care about our petty politics cuz there's tons of laws about us personally but not anything about our governments. they aren't miths, every evelutinoary scientist can tell you they believe it occured by chance and if not that then how? by my understanding early earth atmosphere allowed conditions where when lightning struck the water it created protien units which came together to form a protien chain which developed to the first lifeform. tell me where i'm wrong?

the fact is evolution has no evidence other than what made darwin come up with the theory in the first place (which isn't really evidence) and no further evidence has been found.

You're a fucking idiot. I just wanted you to know that. There is plenty of evidence for evolution. It's not even a theory anymore. It's a fact. Eat it.

if it's fact why is it still a theory? theory=fact? may i refer you to a dictionary or is that another book of nonsense?

they say one inaccuracy or hoax of the bible means it's all fake but there have been so many evelutionary hoaxes it's not even funny but every time it happens it's ignored. when someone combines an ape jaw to a human skull and presents it as a missing link but later is discovered to be a fake is just what ever. you accuse christians of holding back science but apparently athiests do the same thing.

Any proof of these claims? I have proof that you're an african ape, but no matter how many times I shove it in your face you won't believe it because you're a scared little sheep who is obviously too attached to idiot delusions to even try to understand things like science, facts, etc.

oh common if you don't know about the hoaxes done many times to prove the missing link between apes and humans you should do research. google is a good tool.

dismissing the notion of a creator because "that's just stupid." well i think throwing away possibilities with no evidence to rule it out is "just stupid."

It's a good thing nobody important (esteemed members of the scientific community) give a flying fuck what you think. Nobody dismisses the notion of a creator just because they think it's stupid with no evidence. It's dismissed because there is no evidence, whatsoever. Not a tiny little fragment of evidence to support your claim, yet you believe it. Now that's just fucking stupid.

evidence is found all the time and dismissed not because it doesn't have evidence, but b/c they think it's stupid as you say. heres a source http://www.answersingenesis.org/

i think coming up with theories and withholding evidence that doesn't support those theories is "just stupid." you should find out how carbon dating works before you use that as evidence cuz that's just bad science built on assumptions. that's what evolution is. just because animals adapt means that's how all animals came to be? a chain of trial and error without any proof that it's possible for a spicies to change to another? there's proof many different types of cats exist and can create other kinds of cats but there's no proof a cat can become a squirl or can become anything other than a cat.

You don't have a fucking clue. That's funny. What's sad is that you don't even want to know. Just in case you change your idiot mind:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYPapE-3F...plpp_video

well i watched but it looks like when it comes to cosmology it can never make it past the guess cuz we can't possibly produce an experiment to prove it so by that logic you can never prove the origin of the universe you're saying all your own theories are inconclusive as they can't be proven right. oops

what i also find astounding is you assume your science is right but science changes all the time. science used to think the earth was flat or dome shape but in the book of Isiah 40:22 it says "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth..."

Scientific method doesn't change. See the old ass video above.

Right... because a flat circle.. that's just ridiculous. Nobody would ever think a circle could be flat. Science changes as we learn more. Ya know, that thing you do when you find out more information that wasn't previously known. No, wait.. you wouldn't know. Sorry.

Unlike your set of irrelevant, unsubstantiated, ancient beliefs, science embraces it's theories being proven incorrect. The trouble for you is that no one who holds your stupid beliefs ever ever ever has proven anything that science has to offer incorrect.


as i explained to the other guy of corse the earth isn't 2 dimentional that's self explanitory. they didn't have specific names for 3 dimentional shapes back then so it's describing a sphere but translates to circle. and let me make this clear, i'm not argueing against science i'm all for it. i personally love physics. what i'm argueing against are these theories of cosmology that don't hold up. and christianity has helped science along as there were christian scientists like isaac newton who's research was funded by the church. the bible has proven to be a very accurate historical doccument one of the best detailed accounts of the day. i don't think it's inconsistant and if it is prove it.

so the bible had it thousands of years before science could prove it how interesting.

If that were true at all, it would be interesting, but it's not true... therefore, it's just drivel.

read the passage, it also explains the expansion of the heavens (in case you're still being literal that means universe, that word didn't exist either at the time).

if it were wrong then that could be evidence against the bible but every time ppl try to prove the bible wrong they find it's facts entirely accurate, all the historical and scientific ones. but i must thank science cuz on the other hand if it weren't for those finding new evidence to support it accidently, i wouldn't appreciate it as much so thank you

There is tons of evidence against the bible, that's why know one with half a fucking brain in their skull takes it seriously. You're angry with science, I can tell. I know you want the bible to be true because if it's not then your whole shitty life is a pathetic, wasteful lie. Science doesn't give a fuck, so go whine about it, and express your incredibly redundant, ignorant, mindless, unthinking bullshit to a forum that just buys any old opinion that someone who speaks in text message language tries to sell them.

again keep personal stuff out of this. i'm angry with how science is b/c it's all one sided to the point where you pretty much have to be an athiest to be a scientist. if they were open to ideas, they would want a diversity of ideas flowing through not the same old stuff.

ByeBye.

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He's another one of those nut jobs who apparently....knows the entire workings of the cosmos.

if i did know everything about it i wouldn't be here. i was hoping to come here to get good logical debates but instead get personal attacks and "you don't know anything" comments. for a page for rational discussion you ppl sure use irrational personnal attacks alot for argueing a point