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Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc.
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RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc.
(July 23, 2023 at 12:20 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(July 23, 2023 at 1:53 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Because times have changed and NATO should change with it, if it wants to be effective in forestalling and preventing conflicts that can lead to massive human suffering from breaking out in the first place, like the human suffering now tragically unfolding in Ukraine. Beside, Turkey has been a NATO member for a very long time, and Turkiye is essentially an Asian country; the vast majority of it's landmass is in Asia, and its also about 6500 km from the North Atlantic Ocean, so there is historical precedent.
Controlling the Mediterranean is vital to European security, and that naturally requires Turkish involvement. I think you're overestimating the distance, too, by about 50%. (Istanbul -- Gibraltar is about 4000 km).
He is overestimating by ca. 100% actually. Read
Istanbul-Gibraltar is actually 3000km.
Less than 3000 from the west coast of Turkey, 4000km from Gibraltar to the border to Iran.
6500km west of Ankara is....the fooking middle of the North Atlantic.
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Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Nishant Xavier - July 12, 2023 at 4:42 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Bucky Ball - July 12, 2023 at 5:58 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Angrboda - July 12, 2023 at 5:58 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Angrboda - July 13, 2023 at 7:19 am
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Deesse23 - July 13, 2023 at 5:40 am
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 4:32 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Nay_Sayer - July 12, 2023 at 7:48 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Angrboda - July 22, 2023 at 6:24 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Deesse23 - July 23, 2023 at 1:33 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Nay_Sayer - July 22, 2023 at 6:01 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2023 at 6:03 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2023 at 6:16 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2023 at 6:26 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 10:08 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2023 at 6:21 pm

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