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Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc.
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RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc.
Thump: Ok, let's put it this way: China recently denied the Sovereignty and Territorial Integrity of some Post-Communist Eastern European Baltic States. This caused a huge uproar and rightly so, for in principle it justified an invasion of those Countries; and later, with this good diplomatic pressure on the CCP, they acknowledged the sovereignty of those countries. You probably know this, but here's the link: https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Interna...iet-states Also, these Eastern European Countries get the problems inherent in the Sino-Soviet Alliance far better than some Western European countries, perhaps because of their proximity to the threat. UK is an exception, but France and Germany are examples. They clearly understood their security was under threat as long as the CCP thought this way, even more problematic than the obvious support the CCP has been giving Thug Putin in this war from the very beginning.

Not going to get into detailed arguments on this point, but will only say this: if China and Russia unite, and China mobilizes but 1% of its population only to fight, Europe's going to have no chance. That's why, to prevent that, it would be wise for Europe to welcome other Asian Countries into the Alliance beside Turkey: Japan, South Korea, India and the Philippines in particular. NATO could continue to be a defensive Alliance just as it is now.

If some reforms are needed, those should be implemented. It's fine if NATO doesn't want to do this also, but then it's unrealistic, to say the least, to expect Global South Countries to support NATO in this conflict, which NATO certainly will need in the long run. They'll just see it as a local European thing they need no more be concerned about than you are about a Rwanda conflict. As of right now, you should know, "EIU Report: 70% of Global Population Is Neutral or Supportive of Russia, Not the West". https://www.russia-briefing.com/news/eiu...west.html/ It isn't because people can't clearly see here that Russia is the invader; of course they can. It's the same I-don't-careism false philosophy, by which some say we shouldn't care what happens beyond our borders, others beyond a race, others beyond some region. Just as Gandhi said an eye for an eye ends by making the whole world blind, so also I-don't-careism philosophy leads to a world where no one cares for anyone else, and that's hardly a Good World anyone would want to live in. It's fine if NATO does not want to welcome Asian Countries, but it would clearly be not only be enlightened and smart to do so, but also in NATO's own long term self-interest.
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Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Nishant Xavier - July 12, 2023 at 4:42 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Bucky Ball - July 12, 2023 at 5:58 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Angrboda - July 12, 2023 at 5:58 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Angrboda - July 13, 2023 at 7:19 am
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Deesse23 - July 13, 2023 at 5:40 am
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 4:32 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Nay_Sayer - July 12, 2023 at 7:48 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Angrboda - July 22, 2023 at 6:24 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Deesse23 - July 23, 2023 at 1:33 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Nay_Sayer - July 22, 2023 at 6:01 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Nishant Xavier - July 23, 2023 at 7:53 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2023 at 6:03 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2023 at 6:16 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2023 at 6:26 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 10:08 pm
RE: Nato, Sweden, Vilnius, Ukraine etc. - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2023 at 6:21 pm

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