RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
August 3, 2023 at 6:15 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2023 at 6:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
If you’re drawing a blank on why that would be wrong, you’re only telling me that that you don’t think it is.
An amoral person asks me a moral question and then goes on to completely butcher moral terms. No surprise there. God as “absolute moral arbiter” is a fundamentally subjective worldview. I’m not a subjectivist.
Allow me to cut to the chase. You think that your gods moral view is objective because you think it’s the real moral view…just as and explicitly because you think your god is real. However, all moral systems are real. An objective morality, by definition, cannot be a matter of individual fiat. Translated for accuracy, you believe that subjectivism is true, and that your god is the king subject. That things are not wrong with respect to any fact about those things. Hence your unfortunate line of questioning.
In objective moralities, facts are the absolute moral arbiter. Not gods…even if gods did exist.
An amoral person asks me a moral question and then goes on to completely butcher moral terms. No surprise there. God as “absolute moral arbiter” is a fundamentally subjective worldview. I’m not a subjectivist.
Allow me to cut to the chase. You think that your gods moral view is objective because you think it’s the real moral view…just as and explicitly because you think your god is real. However, all moral systems are real. An objective morality, by definition, cannot be a matter of individual fiat. Translated for accuracy, you believe that subjectivism is true, and that your god is the king subject. That things are not wrong with respect to any fact about those things. Hence your unfortunate line of questioning.
In objective moralities, facts are the absolute moral arbiter. Not gods…even if gods did exist.
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