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Why are Paul's writings in the Bible?
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RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible?
(October 3, 2023 at 9:29 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Invoked the principle of parsimony (aka Ockham's Razor)...as in, why would someone try to forge an unknown author named Paul? 

Who knows, but we know that happened whether paul was a real boy or not.... so?  As I mentioned before, the parsimonious answer for the character in magic book may not, actually, be a real boy.  Rather, a real church with real needs - regardless of whether there were ever any real boy.

Similarly, religions do fall out of the sky, quite literally in the case of a religion we watched form in recent history.

Lay the issue of historicity aside for a moment, as we'll simply assume there was a historical paul. The religion still "fell out of the sky". It was no one persons creation, not even the granted historical paul in magic book - which is certainly not, according to The Scholarly Consensus....The Historical Person of Paul. Unknown authors still forged books in pauls name. This, not pauls historicity, is why these are poor arguments. They're known counterfactuals.

These issues have been known and alot of ink has been spilt on them for over a century. Thus, it's grandstanding and not debating, imo, to pretend that mythicists are nuts - just because they agree with the consensus -about the character in magic book- but choose not to use the negotiated language of jesus nuts. Put another way, even the people who hold to a historic paul can (and often do) acknowledge all of this, and say..like bart ehrman is famous for with jesus..that even so, they still think there was some real boy that we know absolutely nothing about because of the circumstances of history and religious development. Let it sink in.
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Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Fake Messiah - August 31, 2023 at 6:25 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Fake Messiah - September 30, 2023 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 1, 2023 at 2:47 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 1, 2023 at 8:21 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Ahriman - October 1, 2023 at 8:39 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Ahriman - October 1, 2023 at 3:06 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - August 31, 2023 at 9:31 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - August 31, 2023 at 9:50 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - September 29, 2023 at 10:59 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Anomalocaris - September 1, 2023 at 2:30 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - September 29, 2023 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 1, 2023 at 7:45 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 1, 2023 at 8:02 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 1, 2023 at 11:24 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 2, 2023 at 2:23 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 1, 2023 at 11:51 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 1, 2023 at 9:48 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 1, 2023 at 11:49 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 2, 2023 at 2:57 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 2, 2023 at 6:42 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 2, 2023 at 9:05 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 2, 2023 at 10:12 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GUBU - October 3, 2023 at 1:52 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 3, 2023 at 8:30 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 3, 2023 at 6:22 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 3, 2023 at 8:16 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Foxaèr - September 29, 2023 at 1:34 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - September 29, 2023 at 3:02 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 2, 2023 at 6:49 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 2, 2023 at 9:42 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 2, 2023 at 9:59 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 2, 2023 at 10:15 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 2, 2023 at 11:33 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 2, 2023 at 1:36 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 2, 2023 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 2, 2023 at 4:06 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 2, 2023 at 4:36 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 2, 2023 at 5:26 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 2, 2023 at 8:53 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 2, 2023 at 9:24 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 3, 2023 at 8:15 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 3, 2023 at 8:25 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 4, 2023 at 8:03 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 3, 2023 at 8:31 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 3, 2023 at 8:47 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 3, 2023 at 9:01 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 3, 2023 at 9:13 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 2, 2023 at 10:18 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 3, 2023 at 8:18 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 4, 2023 at 12:14 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 4, 2023 at 12:15 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 4, 2023 at 12:56 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 2, 2023 at 9:18 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Foxaèr - October 2, 2023 at 6:09 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 3, 2023 at 9:18 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 3, 2023 at 9:29 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 3, 2023 at 9:44 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 4, 2023 at 11:32 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 4, 2023 at 11:44 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2023 at 11:24 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 4, 2023 at 4:20 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 4, 2023 at 6:03 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 4, 2023 at 7:02 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 4, 2023 at 8:57 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 4, 2023 at 8:43 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 4, 2023 at 8:29 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 5, 2023 at 8:47 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 5, 2023 at 9:22 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 5, 2023 at 9:46 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 5, 2023 at 10:52 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Foxaèr - October 5, 2023 at 10:53 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 5, 2023 at 11:20 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 7, 2023 at 9:32 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 7, 2023 at 10:03 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 7, 2023 at 11:42 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Fake Messiah - October 7, 2023 at 12:19 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 7, 2023 at 2:02 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 7, 2023 at 2:17 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 7, 2023 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by GrandizerII - October 7, 2023 at 3:25 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 7, 2023 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 7, 2023 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 7, 2023 at 1:28 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 7, 2023 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 7, 2023 at 9:06 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by Bucky Ball - October 7, 2023 at 2:29 pm
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 8, 2023 at 8:51 am
RE: Why are Paul's writings in the Bible? - by LinuxGal - October 8, 2023 at 11:20 am

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