RE: Why Agnostic?
July 2, 2009 at 4:29 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2009 at 4:30 pm by Purple Rabbit.)
I think that Kyu points to what makes it problematic for me to rank myself in your scale: your use of certainty.
Let's give an example of what I mean:
Suppose the deistic god shows up tomorrow, you know the one that created the universe and after that with god speed (sic) was off to a happier place. He gives us falsifiable details about the origin of our universe that enable us to empirically check his claims. At a certain point we would in all honesty have to conclude that within the boundaries of our understanding of the world and what is provable in it on basis of scientific criterions his claim is right, so the existence of this god is proven with (for example) the same certainty that I can claim that the existence of electrons is proven.
Suppose that meanwhile my brain however really is in a jar in some lab in the 27th dimension of Being, or wherever, and thinking this all up or was fed with information from the 27th dimension of Being that made me think it up.
However farfetched, my example shows that it is possible to have proof for the existence of God, in the same way that we can have proof of anything at all, and at the same time draw the wrong conclusion.
Let's give an example of what I mean:
Suppose the deistic god shows up tomorrow, you know the one that created the universe and after that with god speed (sic) was off to a happier place. He gives us falsifiable details about the origin of our universe that enable us to empirically check his claims. At a certain point we would in all honesty have to conclude that within the boundaries of our understanding of the world and what is provable in it on basis of scientific criterions his claim is right, so the existence of this god is proven with (for example) the same certainty that I can claim that the existence of electrons is proven.
Suppose that meanwhile my brain however really is in a jar in some lab in the 27th dimension of Being, or wherever, and thinking this all up or was fed with information from the 27th dimension of Being that made me think it up.
However farfetched, my example shows that it is possible to have proof for the existence of God, in the same way that we can have proof of anything at all, and at the same time draw the wrong conclusion.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0